I was pointing out that even though this fleet can be dangerous (usually any fleets when formed are dangerous), but this is still 80 frigates we are talking about. Even though we have DPS, this fleet still can be countered easily as it is usually lightly tanked (roughly 5k ehp each). 5k ehp times 80 is about 400k ehp which is an ehp of a two buffer tank battleships. But each of this ships are only 5k ehp which a well placed smarbombs can wipe in a single attack. Some groups of people have actually come up with very effective counter against this inty fleet with as little as 4-5 pilots against our 80 pilots (if my memory is correct we probably were down to 60-50 pilots). I can tell you the 4-5 pilots were not all in capital ships, in fact it was 1 rorq that we tackled who called in 4 battleships (or maybe it was only 3 battleships), with as little as 3-4 additinal battleships, we had to bail from the rorqual because of how they organized their defense. Even with this drawback of very low tank, we are still at it week after week trying to take down capital ships with millions of ehp and we were doing it in ceptors because it is so much fun! and no, it doesnt take several minutes, sometimes we take 1 hour to kill these ships, we had to figure out their fits, check if the ship is capping up properly, check if it’s bait tanking or not, sometimes also asking for intel if they are coming with backup. We also had multiple encounters where a carrier or rorq was bait tanking, letting their tank go down to hull and when our fleet get close for higher DPS it lit its cyno up, and several titans cynoed in to smartbomb us. This is why these fleets are so exciting, our encounters are so random we never knew what’s coming at us and we keep pushing ourselves to see what’s new. You know what was said on comms when someone says, “that looks like bait”, we say “we always take the bait”. On top of that, these fleets are quite popular with new players who want to get in on action and learn a little PVP. This is where we get newbros gets excited with the game. This is where we teach newbros most valuable lesson in EVE: That as long as we know what we are doing and what we are fighting, we can kill ships even the biggest class of ships with the smallest class of ships. As long as we use our brain of course. And the opposite is true, if our opponents use their brain, they can counter this fleet. Had we been blown up to bits before? hell yeah. In that case we made our fleetmembers who were still alive jealous coz we were already in jita while they had 30-40 jumps to hi sec. I actually wonder why this interceptor fleet is more dangerous that stealth bomber fleet? I mean these SB fleets can literally be bridged by Black ops, they even have much higher DPS than interceptors (500-600 DPS), they can cloak while warping, and they even have void bombs which zap capacitors and enable capitals killing so much faster! I guarantee you a stealth bomber fleet can kill capital way faster than interceptor fleet, can someone bring the data of capitals killed by stealth bombers vs capitals killed by combat interceptors? I know bombers bar kills carriers and supers every week and yet csm think interceptors are the problem? Look at Brisc Rubal’s killboard, one of his top ships is a hound, surely he is neutral to these changes eh?