Dev Blog: October Balance Pass!

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(CCP Falcon) #1

Check out this blog from the EVE Dev Team about upcoming balanc work, including changes to ECM, nullification and a little bit of work on the Triglavian ship lineup!

Read all about it here!


Requesting optional ECM Skillpoint and skillbook refund with October release
Oktober Balance Änderungen
(Brock Khans) #2

@CCP_Falcon Does the jamming changes apply to upwell structures? It seems to defeat the purpose of jamming a DPS ship from attacking your structure, if they can still target it.


(Ralyn Longs) #3

The slot layout change on the damavik is definitely not going to drive up its use lol.


(Awkward Pi Duolus) #4

Overall, I love these changes.

Just one clarification - when you can target back, what can you do now, that you could not do before?

I imagine you can’t activate offensive mods, as that will beat the point of it being a “jam,” right?


(Tipa Riot) #5

RIP (spectre fleet) ceptor roams. You just removed one very fun activity from the game, because you can now effectively slowdown/block those with a few bubbles. Combat ceptors will be basically useless for nullsec, since there are better non-nulli ships to take over the role in fleets, Dramiel anyone?

We had this discussion already, and I’m glad you just ignored the reasoning and went for the cartels’ safety of ratting and botting space.


(Rivr Luzade) #6

We hope this preserves the unique role Interceptors play as scouts and tacklers while introducing more significant tradeoffs for the powerful tool of nullification.

Thank you for making Delve even saver than it already is. This load of slime must taste delicious.

WTF is wrong with you in making null sec safer and safer with every god damn patch?

500mn Hictors!

Care to explain where this is even used?

The Damavik is struggling though. We had hoped that even with only two mids it would be able to find a solid place by leveraging its high slot utility but that definitely hasn’t happened. You guys were right!

Not that I want Abyssal crap to succeed but: You don’t say! After 10 years of people telling you the Retribution needs a 3rd mid slot, you introduce another ship with 2 mids and ignore those suggestions again. Good job.


(Arthur Aihaken) #7

With what, 90% of the CSM dominated by null-sec shills - did you honestly expect anything different?


(Brock Khans) #8

You claim NS knowledge, and yet you’ve never seen the 500mn trick that dominates NS gate camping.


(Mompsie) #9

how does this affect ecm burst?


(Rivr Luzade) #11

I have not ever in my 7 years of playing encountered a 500MN hictor outside of wormhole rolling.

And I can’t see any issue with that tactic. Not when much worse things exist in EVE, like bubble screwed gates, titans on gates and so on. You even have to sacrifice a lot of tank to make it work, and you cannot jump a gate because it gives you aggression. There are so many downsides to this technique.


(Mai Hantaka) #12

So Caldari pilots will be without an insta-warp taxi ceptor? Can we get a slight buff to the agility of the Crow to get it in line with the other ceptors?


(Steve Ronuken) #13

You can activate offensive modules.

Think of it being like a Taunt in a more normal MMO.

It just forces you to only be able to attack someone who is jamming you.

In a similar way to ARM missiles work really well against Jammers. As ECM is providing a big fat target


(Achura Deteis) #14

The gallente also have no jamming ships, could we give one of their hulls an ecm bonus to keep them in line with caldari ships?


(Kenrailae) #15

Leshak: Do a dread’s worth of damage, move around, sig tank, and receive RR. Why do we have dreads again?


(Destr0math) #16

Of all the things that you have to balance in eve you decided that ceptors and ECM are the things that need to be changed? I’m actually so confused.


(Rikki Bigg) #17

So let’s talk about how ecm will work for solo fights, using say the Griffin Navy Issue as reference…


(Destr0math) #18

the griffin navy is now just useless, sorry!


(Rikki Bigg) #19

Sure, I can get behind this, if the ECM also functions as tackle, otherwise the Taunt comparison isn’t quite as accurate.


(Lquid Drisseg) #20

I would like to be the first to thank the GOON MAJORITY csm for bring great changes to the game from the last summit. now that the 500mn wormhole menace is gone we can finally launch step 5 in our 11 part master plan.

You guys are the best.


(Jev North) #21

Unfortunately, wormholers will be unwilling collateral damage, as they often are, due to the incredible usefulness of HICs for rolling holes.

Yeah, no kidding. This completely ruins some of the basic ways wormholers deal with things, and to see that dismissed with, paraphrased, a “■■■■ wormholers I guess, lol” kind of rankles. Could you not?