While I think you’re right that we’ll adapt. I think it’s important to let CCP know how retarded they are being.
We’re had to deal with nerfs before (e.g. null wh nerfs) but this just seems like a blatant slap in the face.
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They literally apologised that wormholers would no longer be able to roll holes with HICs anymore because of the proposed change. Therefor it is a fact that CCP wants it to be a thing and therefore it is not an exploit or a cheat. I refuse to spend days pouring over posts and blogs to prove that they knew about it and let it stay in the game 9 years ago when there’s proof from less than 24 hours ago that they know of and approve of it.
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And Tracking Disruptors with an Optimum Range Disruption Script shut down a target’s ability to project through lack of optimal.
Sensor Damps are more effective than Tracking Disruptors when your enemy has missiles. They’re also more effective when your enemy has guns and you brought Guidance Disruptors. They’re less effective when you line them up with the right stuff. This could be balanced to line up the same way.
Why are Amarr weapons most effective against Amarr ships?
vOv New Eden be trippin’, yo.
I actually completely forgot about the HIC in a frig hole thing. That’s worthy of fixing. Though not at the cost of safe rolling in general.
I was just hoping to see the post where they approve of the exploit.
I was not implying the bubble itself was the exploit.
I am talking about the usage of the 500mn MWD.
The one most abused by nullsec gate camps in my experience.
Geez you people are touchy when ■■■■ isn’t explained to you like you’re five.
If CCP has not said ‘this is an exploit’, it is not an exploit. CCP is not going to make posts specifically approving of every form of unexpected gameplay. If you want a post where they make it clear that their default position is ‘we didn’t think of that, that’s awesome’, then I suggest you look up Hilmar’s Jetcan Speech from FanFests of years past.
In fact, here you go. I’ll make it easier since you don’t want to have to look things up for yourself, but want it spoon-fed to you like you’re five… months. Hilmar’s story is about 20 minutes in.
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The question here is should rolling be safe, or do CCP want WH using chains more rather than rolling till they get home system to where ever they want.
Using chains brings a lot more life to WH space for the same number of players.
Sometimes we come up with things CCP didn’t think through fully, and didn’t realise all the ramifications of specific combinations. And sometimes those combinations get removed.
Now it would be nice to know if it’s explicitly meant to make rolling harder etc, or it is actually a ‘we regret not having the fix ready yet’ situation.
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Dont mind the ECM changes, but something should be there to compansate as now the ECM ships is basically the “Taunt” of EVE online. I can understand the concept that ECM is to prevent key ships from targeting better targets but it seems like they forget that ECM ships were ALREADY PRIMARY TARGETS!
The change to combat interceptors seems meaningless and all it does is make nullbears a little safer… well here we go, welcome to Safespace Online.
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Usually a spoon doesn’t take an hour and thirty five minutes to fill. You would know that if you were a grown up.
Well by safe rolling I meant rolling in a way where nearly every time your ship ends up on the intended side of the hole. By using the mass reduction from the HIC bubble to minimise your mass when leaving and then coming back so that you’re very unlikely to trap yourself outside. Not saying you misunderstood or didn’t understand just making it clear what I meant. But on the topic of what they want they have stated at fanfest and a few other times online in the past few years that they wanted to fix HICs and bubbles in a way that still allows for safe rolling to be an option.
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I like big spoons. It’s a preference I’ve developed over the last 40 years.
The wormhole rolling thing isn’t just for wormholers, it’s prudent in nullsec to close holes when they open up.
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It’s funny. Tanks in other games force people or NPCs to target only them like what they want ECMs to do. Unlike other games however ECM ships have noticeably less EHP and tanking ability than other ships of the same class meaning they are a horrible ship to give a module which forces people to only target them.
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I like regular sized spoons. It’s a preference I’ve developed over the last 40 years.
I skipped about a bit. I noticed the part you’re referring to. But they never mentioned the actual exploit.
The exploit isn’t using HICs to roll holes. It is fitting them specifically to travel 6k m/s to catch nano ships and to decloak players.
I never said rolling holes with a HIC was an exploit. Try again.
Pretty sure you said it.
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ECM ships appear to land squarely in the middle of base EHP numbers and seem to have equivalent fittings also.
If they are having such poor tank that is indicative of your fitting choices to maximise ECM power at the cost of tank, not of a shortfall in the base hull.
You wanna try again, maybe?
You’re not wrong about the fitting choices but your not 100% right either i’d say. If you fit only the biggest tank modules in addition to your ECM you can tank about as well (sometimes better) as a combat based cruiser but you’d have almost no DPS making it a bait/suicide fit. I don’t have much experience fighting with or against them but i’d say more often than not an all tank fit is unusual at best because either your ship does decent damage and Ewar, it does good damage or it’s a logi. At least that’s my experience in fights.
To be fair all those can be referring to the 500MN HIC. You should add the quote I used a couple posts up where it was clearly stated. Well except maybe the “wormhole cheat getting fixed” since rolling is the only HIC related use specific to wormholes.
The new mechanic for ECM is broken. There is no logic and no challenge. Make it a hybrid mechanic like that:
While under ECM:
- you don’t loose already targeted objects
- you can’t lock new targets while jam lasts
- you can’t loose lock when you already started locking on a target