Removing local seems the most efficient way to counter cloaky camping. You don’t have to worry about what you can’t see 
As part of the new balance, can I get a new Bullseye skin for my Falcon? 
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Don’t loose it. Keep it tight.
btw ccp, while you are torqueing all sorts of other things…wh local is broken. yea, no. its Showing ppl in local upon logon, or when traversing wh’s… should probly look into that, while your busy ‘fixing’ ecm and inty’s and hics 
Easy fix there: Just remove local from the game.
That’s in the same league as the ECM change in this patch:
(Almost) no one wants it.
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Only bad players claim there are no counters to these two items.
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Misread
untrue
no one wants it in THEIR space, which is fine there can be an anchorable comms relay thing - but in the depths of all that empty sov space that isnt used… i dont think people care so much
I would love removing/ delaying local if we also get a way of detecting cloaked ships.
Both are bad mechanics.
Zkill stats for ships
Griffin pre change solo kills per week < 10 After change < 3 Not counting whoring on concord kills
Griffin Navy Solo Kills per week > 200 After change < 30
Why do we need a way to detect cloaked ships? If the cloaked ship is not actively using the directional scan, then without local they get zero information. They don’t know how many ships are docked in system, and can never know if they don’t have docking priviledges. If someone wants to gain perfect information on one system, they need a cloaky ship at every gate, structure, wormhole, etc.
Zkill only records ships that are in fights, CCP have access to the number of their customers using the ECM ships
I’ve not encountered a PVE use for them other than burners and I stopped doing that because the survival chance was too low.
Create T2 shuttles with bubble immunity and take it away then from the interceptors.
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I predict cloaky smart bombers everywhere if they did that
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Good , Then maybe T2 shuttles with slots for buffer / tank , speed, agility and the like?
I feel it is natural when interceptors become vulnerable for destroyer bubbles since destroyers are meant to be the counter to frigates.
I mean with this change the interceptors are still immune to all other bubbles right?
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I just realized that damps will be even be more useful than ECM after this.
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Yeah, but if this goes through we have to fly the most God-awful, ugly ship in the game. I’ve been playing 10 years now and can’t recall a single update to the Celestis/Azaru/Lachesis hull. It is by far the greatest eyesore in all of Eve!
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Wait… did some weirdo really say player numbers decrease cause of ceptors and free movement from ceptors? Biggest lol so far in here for that. I think that eve need new players and less supers. What do u think is all that skillppints increase for new characters, Events with boosters and stuff for? You clearly see this from your bittervet cap Pilot point of View… besides, every battle with more than 20 supers are lag and tidi Cancer so far. NO thanks.
NO to ceptor nullification removal!!!
NO to ECM changes.
NO to hic changes without proper working replacement module.
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That eye-soring is part of their dampening play and a great addition during PvP
The irony is that they revamped the falcon/rook hull to look nicer but now want to make it next to useless
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