Dev Blog: October Balance Pass!

[Xsagaroth]

Falcon good for fast cyno
Rook good for…uh hmmm…

[Lugburz]

dying while being laughed at

[Xsagaroth]

rook good for…being killed by all the other combat recons

[Black_Ambulance]

@Rikki_Bigg

Why do we need a way to detect cloaked ships? If the cloaked ship is not actively using the directional scan, then without local they get zero iEvernformation. They don’t know how many ships are docked in system, and can never know if they don’t have docking priviledges. If someone wants to gain perfect information on one system, they need a cloaky ship at every gate, structure, wormhole, etc.

you know that manticore/astero etc can warp cloaked , right ?

[Rikki_Bigg]

I certainly do.

If a player wants to devote attention to their cloaky eyes and follow a fleet around to maintain their intel, isn’t that better than one account afk scraping local per system?

[Fluffy_Moe]

@Brisc_Rubal

It’s not a lie.

Bosoning Titans, smartbombing battleships/T3Cs - these are the only effective counters and they require both precise timing a luck. You have to know exactly where the interceptors are going to land and precisely hit them at exactly the right time to be effective. It’s rare when it works, and it only works when they’re doing something stupid. Otherwise they are uncatchable if they don’t want to be caught. A large group of ceptors fighting another group of ceptors = stalemate.

That’s a bad mechanic. If you want combat power, there needs to be a proper risk/reward balance and there isn’t when it comes to combat interceptors. Fast tackle, travel? Yes - that’s what nullification is best for. It shouldn’t be best for combat, too. That’s just oppressive.

WTG fking up good ships in the rest of entire game for the sake of lazy ass goons. And GG CCP for another goonpatch.

Maybe they should buff rorq mining and ratting in delve some more and introduce some more auto functions to titans while at it, or hey why stop there ? Wouldn’t it be better if they put bubbles everywhere on every wormhole and gate and some new ships that can be produced only in delve ?

Hell, why not everyone except goons and goonpets just leave this fkn game already and be done with it ?

[Scooter6976]

@Fluffy_Moe

@Brisc_Rubal

It’s not a lie.

Bosoning Titans, smartbombing battleships/T3Cs - these are the only effective counters and they require both precise timing a luck. You have to know exactly where the interceptors are going to land and precisely hit them at exactly the right time to be effective. It’s rare when it works, and it only works when they’re doing something stupid. Otherwise they are uncatchable if they don’t want to be caught. A large group of ceptors fighting another group of ceptors = stalemate.

That’s a bad mechanic. If you want combat power, there needs to be a proper risk/reward balance and there isn’t when it comes to combat interceptors. Fast tackle, travel? Yes - that’s what nullification is best for. It shouldn’t be best for combat, too. That’s just oppressive.

WTG fking up good ships in the rest of entire game for the sake of lazy ass goons. And GG CCP for another goonpatch.

did you notice he called interceptors ‘oppresive’ in their combat role right after citing titan/t3/bs counters?? rofl

[Fluffy_Moe]

@Scooter6976

did you notice he called interceptors ‘oppresive’ in their combat role right after citing titan/t3/bs counters?? rofl

Yea I did, fkn goon propaganda BS. Only things that need to be ubber stupidly fkn nerfed in this game is caps and titans. And I do mean everything needs to be nerfed about them, literally everything and hardcore.

I don’t see his ass saying one single word about that. Or CCP for that matter.

[Scooter6976]

@Fluffy_Moe

@Scooter6976

did you notice he called interceptors ‘oppresive’ in their combat role right after citing titan/t3/bs counters?? rofl

Yea I did, fkn goon propaganda BS. Only things that need to be ubber stupidly fkn nerfed in this game is caps and titans. And I do mean everything needs to be nerfed about them, literally everything and hardcore.

I don’t see his ass saying one single word about that. Or CCP for that matter.

nop, they are coming after fax tho.

another thing that was unnecessarily broken in the first place. all this crap about coding…I guess ppl forgot all about the fighter changes and a great many other things. its just bs man, thru and thru. imo.

[Brisc_Rubal]

@Fluffy_Moe

WTG fking up good ships in the rest of entire game for the sake of lazy ass goons. And GG CCP for another goonpatch.

Maybe they should buff rorq mining and ratting in delve some more and introduce some more auto functions to titans while at it, or hey why stop there ? Wouldn’t it be better if they put bubbles everywhere on every wormhole and gate and some new ships that can be produced only in delve ?

Hell, why not everyone except goons and goonpets just leave this fkn game already and be done with it ?

You do realize there are four other interceptors you can use that still have nullification, right?

[Brisc_Rubal]

@Fluffy_Moe

Yea I did, fkn goon propaganda BS. Only things that need to be ubber stupidly fkn nerfed in this game is caps and titans. And I do mean everything needs to be nerfed about them, literally everything and hardcore.

I don’t see his ass saying one single word about that. Or CCP for that matter.

I agree. I would like to see Titans easier to kill, which is one of the reasons why I support nerfing FAXes. I’d also like to see Rorquals be less tanky, and I’d be happy to see the size of excavator drones slightly increased so they don’t all fit in a Wetu.

[Iowa_Banshee]

If you removed null local (delayed would be better) you would have to have a method of looking at who is inside a structure - after all this is a MMO and local is THE way of making new friends

[Nevyn_Auscent]

You already can hack structures for Intel. Let’s extend that then.

[Rikki_Bigg]

As written in the dev blog, my alt that chose to skill into Raptors has exactly zero other interceptors that (s)he can use for travel purposes.

[Infinite_Destruction]

(In before someone says “Crow”.)

[Lugburz]

@Brisc_Rubal

You do realize there are four other interceptors you can use that still have nullification, right?

you do realise you can counter all intercptors today, as is right?

[Rakoras_Nor]

No other space is doing such because they are terrible at organizing themselves, are to busy fighting each other over ant hills, backstabbing each other and/or unwilling to form a hard logistics network and reinvest in their pilots. Stop blaming those who put in massive effort for your own ineptitude and inability to match up. You could do the same thing as Goons if you do the above. That’s why they prosper, that and their focus on a collective culture regardless of origin.

[Agent_5B]

@WEWILLSEE_Whatwillbe

Good , Then maybe T2 shuttles with slots for buffer / tank , speed, agility and the like?
I feel it is natural when interceptors become vulnerable for destroyer bubbles since destroyers are meant to be the counter to frigates.
I mean with this change the interceptors are still immune to all other bubbles right?

Yes I think ceptors are excessive for travel purposes the alternative is a luxury yacht which is sort of a clue that there is a gap in the market for something for something more practical, Transport ships also more than is needed a lot of the time but the alternative I use is an exploration frigate, this and the shuttle just seem like there should be a better ship for a lot of the things I use them for. It’s like you need a van but the only thing you can buy is a truck. As for bubbles I am not sure because I try to stay away from places where they can be used due to the fact there is no remote possibility of getting a fight I can win there.

[Rivr_Luzade]

Sure, I stop complaining when CCP takes steps to actually accommodate and enjoyably allows this. CCP has not done anything at all in that regard in years. Hence I will not stop pointing out negligent design decisions and mouthpieces defending these incoherent, not thought through and unhealthy designs, which even resulted in a war that had to be aborted or else the cluster would have been in profound trouble and the biggest group on the cluster deprived of the only opposition.

[Scooter6976]

@Brisc_Rubal

I agree. I would like to see Titans easier to kill, which is one of the reasons why I support nerfing FAXes.

your back. bad. This is EXACTLY why I logged into these threads in the first place. You and your ‘ideas’.

its a shame people keeping rolling over that rock you hide under. If you had it your way, we’d have zero inty’s nullified, ecm would be in the rubbish pile, wh’ers would have zero methods to counter zerg tactics…oh wait…

you cherry pick a person’s points, pick one, then you present yourself as the reasonable person in the room with a ‘solution’. you deliberately ignore the context a person provided, and you duck the reasoning behind their irritation on a given topic. your solutions are disruptive, and serve a less than transparent agenda. stop pretending you ‘work for us’. anyone that reads the entirety of your posts, just in this thread, knows better.

please, tell us, ALL the reasons why you support nerfing fax. no, not here. Idc. start another of your troll threads and poison people over there. this thread is for feedback on the current list of changes remember? fax got skipped this go around…or did it? I know your ‘working tirelessly’ to see them addressed asap, so mayb not

in case people forgot: Potential Fix for WHers for the 500mn HIC

yes people, in all brisc’s wisdom and foresight, he saw no problem with advocating for a mining booster hull to take over the ability to traverse frig holes in lieu of a HIC. anyone wana take a gander as to why he would advocate for such a silly thing? anyone?? ill give you a hint: its Not to see more titans dead, for damn sure. IF he wanted to see more titans dead, he’d be advocating for Nerfs to Titans!

its classic double speak, aka bs.
dying is unfun, so nerf ecm (even tho ecm Cant kill you).
titans are op, so nerf fax.
lurch hics are a bug so nerf wh’s + hics + wh rolling.
inty’s are ‘oppresive’ (lol) so nerf their ability to bypass bubbles.

you almost get away with this crap …