Dev Blog: October Balance Pass!

The Rook IS a good ship for LowSec Ratting/Missions.
But if you are probed down by an other combat recon you are toast.
I have been attacted in LS several times, mostly escaped thanks ECM.
Thats gone than - RIP Rook

then remove the cosmic signatures where you just warp to , and leave only the ones you have to probe it , and I will agree with you :wink:

Note: Those are called anomalies.

thanks

A return to having to scan everything down would be a good idea anyway.

Yeah, that was just another “gift to gankers”.
“Waaa - we don’t want to have to fit probe launchers and work to find soft targets. Make it so we can see all the ice/ore belts as soon as we enter the system so we can warp directly to them.”

You know they won’t be reversing that change any time soon (as in, not in this lifetime or even the next one).

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you mean that gankers are able to have 20 catalyst alts but not one single scanner alt ?

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The Zero-Point Mass Entangler for wormhole rolling is on sisi. So wormholers can breath a sigh of relief.

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You can always run if you see probes though.

Good advice thanks o/

Good advise thanks o/

I wonder how often you use your dscan in HS.
There are probes in every system at least once per hour. At LEAST.

And of course a gift for the bots in low & null - It’s hard to program a bot to scan

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I had to show a 2 year old character how to find combat sites in hi-sec - at least this would force them to learn how to scan.

Dumbing down for newbies = fostering churn over retention.

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Put ganker corps on -10, and move away from the warp in point of sigs, and if you start seeing reds in local start d-scanning?

Because you can’t do all of that now ?

Any of the other CSM folks can come here and provide their views, if they want to.

I don’t view these changes as strictly benefitting nullsec, and they certainly aren’t at the expense of other areas of space.

ECM changes affect those modules everywhere, and players in nullsec aren’t using or having ECM used against them at a higher rate than anywhere else in the game. ECM is everywhere. Even the rats do it.

Nullification on interceptors is a nullsec issue primarily, but attackers and defenders both use those types of ships. And, as has been noted over and over, not all interceptors are having this removed, so the liklihood is that you’ll simply see the meta change and areas that see interceptor gangs going through will continue to see them.

Fixing the 500MN lurch HIC issue specifically hurts defenders in nullsec, because those were primarily gate camp mechanics that got nerfed. Folks weren’t really using 500mn lurch HICs offensively.

Balance changes to the Damavik aren’t geographic, either.

While I understand the desire of some people to view every balance decision made as some kind of conspiracy, I just don’t think those arguments stand up to scrutiny.

Counterpoint:

Swarms of response ECM griffins are standard to ‘save’ a ship that has been engaged, across all parts of space. Blobs of ECM still benefit whomever has the largest blob, and a swarm of griffins will still save their target. The issue is that the ECM change isn’t complete. Fix it across all hulls instead of just looking at Blackbirds and Griffins, and then we can be happy with the change.

Nullification on Interceptos is a nullsec issue because it makes uncomfortable problems/solutions when dealing with Entosis games. This is entirely a Sov problem, and the rest of the game is paying the price. You are in politics Brisc, you completely understand how this is privatizing the profits and socializing the cost. Not to mention the lack of any mention about Caldari Interceptors re taxis. It was an afterthought, and your claims of ‘we have discussed it’ are damage control.

Lurch HIC, something about damage control. A year has elapsed, with no solution. Now we have to rush through changes. Bonus, we are also getting titan changes to help performance, but still no FAX rebalance, we can keep pushing it back… The issue here isn’t the solution, it’s the presentation.

Damavik seems like a case of someone wanting to tweak dials and knobs just because they can. Perhaps CCP will liten to the player feedback and have a discussion about whether the changes are needed, and what they hope to accomplish. Changes so the ship is ‘more popular’ doesn’t cut it when most of the population doesn’t even have the skillbook to fly it injected.

In his defense, Steve came to this thread too and offered his position and engaged in discussion.
I hope CCP has gained insight from this thread, and meets the playerbase halfway; it is sometimes difficult to find common ground when one side has made their mind up before examining any evidence.

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You forget to mention that this is part of your plan to get rid of nullification all together. You expect people to switch to tackle ceptors instead apparently showing CCP that nullification is the one and only culprit, and therefore to convince them to remove it completly.

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Your going to have to point out “what doesn’t stand up to scrutiny”. In my mind these changes and any defense for them dont make the cut with these ecm changes.