Devblog: War Declaration Changes - The War Adjacent to Christmas

Yeah, that’s a big problem I see happening if these corps can’t get rid of the structures they’ve been ‘given’. You’ve got some entitiies, like WiNGSPAN, U’K, PIE, etc, that have been around for almost literally the entire life of the game, and they’d be screwed if they had to give up their identities. Similarly, smaller corps trying to make their own identities are negatively impacted by having to hop to a ‘holding’ corp because after all, they’re trying to make their own identity.

It’s counterproductive, and works directly against the reason you get into your own corp in the first place. That said, I expect this wrinkle’s an oversight, and CCP will figure out a way to correct for the ‘involuntarily transferred’ structures before the patch goes live. Just because they’d look pretty dumb if they didn’t, now that it’s been highlighted.

I think that if WiNGSPAN and the others have not already crumpled under their wardec vulnerability, they’re unlikely to give up in the foreseeable future.

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Like a boss of Guard proportions! :sweat_smile:

@CCP_Guard :loveparrot:

I also feel this is a simple oversight from CCP, not intended, and hopefully they will find a way to make it right.
And are you positive that it has been highlighted?

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Do you see this thread? It’s been highlighted. I’ll give you really good odds that even as he’s saying ‘I think the impact from this will be minimal’, @Brisc_Rubal is also nudging the devs and saying ‘hey, can you guys make sure the impact from this is minimal, cuz that’d really be a shitty thing for people to have done to them’.

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Oh yeah, I get your point. Ok, I’m optimistic now, I was once in WiNGSPAN, and they lose a lot of unnecessary blingy stuff in HS. And a rule in the corp is that they are not allowed to anchor any structures, funny how they are forced to get one. xD
But I think the corp can maybe find itself popular, like it once was. They are more like a legend now, I like them, I like what they do, I think they should thrive more than what they do. :slight_smile:

What is to stop alliances from having a dec shield alliance with over 200 structures or dec shield corp and just making it blue for everyone to use
soon no alliance in high sec will own anything except the main dec shield that has all the structures and no on in it.
rest in peace war dec :cry:

Yup, in their blind rush to save newbies who are going to quit anyway when they get gate ganked or something, they made a huge mess of wardec.

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Suicide ganking is a brief experience that comes and goes, you can go play somewhere else right after it happens and be completely fine.

War deccing a newer player leaves them no option to play for an entire week where there is basically nothing they can do to counter it outside logging off for a week if they don’t want to quit corp.

Trying to justify your activity to be “not as bad” or “just as bad” is just false, its much worse overall. Which is why you wont see suicide ganking removed long term. Because as much as you dislike it overall it is less cancerous gameplay than smashing new players out forever.

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Ganking is worst form of pvp in the game. Dont get me wrong, I have ganked and will gank again. But Ganking is wholly asymmetrical. There is no “fighting” gankers. Sure you can avoid being ganked - not always - but for the most part, but there is no way to “fight” them. If if you could fight them, hell, their ships are disposable. Also its not always ture that you can “come back” after being ganked. Who hasnt encountered the newish player who just lost all of his belongings because he foolishly stuck everything into a single freighter or the guy that spent the Christmas money his grandma just gave him on a new shiny that got blown up? Contrast this with war dec - in war decs you can avoid the dec entirely. Alternatively, you can “fight” them if you want to. Of course people generally dont fight back in wars, because (1) there is no point to fighting back; and (2) the major war dec corps are vastly more organized then their targets. But that doesnt mean that ganking is better then war decs.

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Most people would argue the whole experience is completely avoidable by means of prevention.

It’s like you read my thoughts.

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The changes are made, people moaning in forums won’t change anything. how people say? “adapt or die”

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Say this out loud ten times as quickly as possible.

  • The location of the structure in space does not matter for war eligibility

This needs to change now, to you must have a stru in empire or low sec. Make the big alliance have to come defend there ■■■■ in low or empire.

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i dont see the problem

Oooo mentioned in an Eve Online Dev Blog… Fake Notoriety Achievement unlocked. :wink:

I don’t disagree with you at all but if you look mostly of the big people have structures in HS I know goonswarm has quite a few over anmar space

This is a bad idea. Please try another option to fix the wardec system. This will only encourage botters to create their own corps.

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Dude, all you need is a holding Corp. Problem solved.