I know lets remove all the fun monthly events and add a static event that people greatly dislike that runs for a year or so and makes life for all the new players a terrible experience so they aren’t even interested in playing.
O wait were already doing that.
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Its really easy to explain why people are leaving.
Nobody likes grinding. If you dont have big wallet and real money to spend you will need to sacrifice your personal life to achieve anything of value in EVE.
I’m rich, I can spend real money, but I’m not deluded. Most people can’t.
Speed up leveling for ALL twice, make rewards for activities worth your time and things will change.
If not, well…
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You realize that wealth is relative, right? That if you give everyone twice as much money, things will also cost double, and other silly little economic truths like that?
Grats on winning the lotto, though.
I said rewards, it can be other thing than money. Ships, blueprints, resources, whatever.
Grinding was and always will be bad thing for game. Thats why most grinding games are dying out and replaced with microtransactions. Just like in EVE. You buy PLEX with real money and you sell it for ISK, saving hours of grind.
Grind is not a feature but a mistake in gameplay.
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And what happens when you give everyone more of that?
Someone still has to grind.
Come on, this is 3/10 rehashed material from 2006 at best. You can do so much better.
Gosh, you are so toxic.
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And you don’t understand basic economics. Sorry if the truth hurts, but when you say something as profoundly stupid as “JUST GIVE EVERYONE MORE REWARDS” the only sensible reaction to it is exactly what you got.
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Personally I will just buy more Plex and sell it, rolf
But more rwards to the players is the only way to get more players stay but I dont really care what CPP will do, lol. You can grind your life away.
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And again you fail to understand basic concepts like inflation and relative wealth. Giving everyone more rewards just devalues all of those rewards and you’re right back where you started.
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By that logic ore should be given for free right now 
…
Are you honestly this stupid?
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Another toxic. Into ingore list you go.
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Another person who whines about how “toxic” it is that their terrible ideas don’t get the praise they were expecting. Another loss for the participation trophy generation.
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Toxic? On the contrary, I really like your style. I just think you can do better than reaching for the bottom-of-the-barrel stuff.
Actually Namaros is correct, increasing rewards increases player participation.
Resource Wars is a perfect example of what happens when content gives sub-par rewards.
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Only when you increase rewards for one particular activity, and it only increases participation in that one activity (most likely at the expense of participation in other activities). What Namaros is demanding, an across the board increase in rewards, creates at best a temporary increase in participation before the market adjusts to the new numbers, the illusion of higher rewards is broken, and relative wealth goes right back to where it was.
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There is a profound difference between wealth redistribution, and “giving everyone more stuff.”
Just like there is a profound difference between player participation, and player retention.
Not understanding this is the reason why you carebear folk are objectively so bad at this game. It has nothing to do with being averse to PvP (although arguing against PvP in a PvP game is a disgusting attitude for a host of other reasons); it’s that none of you understand where money and power actually comes from. Most of you don’t even consciously comprehend your own intrinsic reasons for being attracted to this game.
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In fact it goes even beyond that, as history has shown that printing handouts leads to a wider wealth gap in the middle-to-long term, because the already-wealthy (think douchebag brokers and hedge fund managers) are able to leverage their existing wealth in order to manipulate the market in their own favor.
If you give everyone a free CNR tomorrow, the rich guy is going to buy them all up during the price crash with his supply of funds, and once the market dries up and they become sought-after again, will sell them back to you for massive profits.
Seriously, it’s sad how these people don’t understand the most basic of economic principles, while claiming to be the driving force behind this game’s industry.
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I’ve removed some posts that violated the forum rules. Please channel your inner Gold Five and stay on target
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Some people actually like grinding. There are games built around the concept of grinding progression, for example Runescape, Ragnarok Online. The problem is not necessarily the grind itself, but how much enjoyment you have while doing it.
The problem with EVE is that the PvE grind is just incredibly dull and boring.
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