out of a 30% price rise that have no reason ?
Didn’t they state cost of living (inflation)? There’s your reason. Look around. It’s not a new phenomena, it’s been going on for decades.
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no other mmo have rise their price tho
Games not raising prices? Games Workshop Announces Price Increases for Warhammer 40K Figures and Books
A) Warhammer 40,000, the tabletop miniatures combat system is not an MMO.
B) GW has been known for being insanely expensive since at least 1988.
In the early 90s, a single blister pack of Space Mrines cost as much as most RPG suppliements. A Rhino cost more than the core rulebooks of most RPG systems.
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I am pretty sure prices will rise on many games from here on out, not just boxed or online games, online services too.
Just takes one to move first, then the avalance follows.
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So you’ve been saying, but once again, comparing a physical product that needs to be shipped around the world to a digital one is fundamentally flawed, and arguing against he statement ‘no other MMO has risen their prices’ with the example of something that is not an MMO is about as valid as saying ‘Website subscription prices will go up, and I can prove it because cars are more expensive’.
40K’s minis have gone up in price pretty regularly every 2-5 years. Their prices go up more often than anything short of gasoline. Hell, their prices go up even when other things are coming down. Not the example you want to hang your argument on.
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The move as begun to raise prices, you really think other companies are going to sit around and just go nah I won’t raise prices and just absorb costs?
He said MMO not games. You are comparing apples to pizzas.
Table top Minis from warhammer are not comparable to a MMO. When looking at pricing you compare like to like.
Everquest
Wow
FF14
FF11|
Runescape
ESO
ETC ETC those are valid comparisons. The price of Warhammer minis maters about as much as the cost of Monopoly or a deck of cards…
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Because EVE is going up?
Again, we’ve seen major expansions from other MMOs this year, and those MMOs have not raised prices, and in some cases, have reduced the cost of access. Extrapolating a trend in MMOs from one case is nonsense.
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So how long do you think companies are going to aborb costs? A week? Month? Two months? Companies report quarterly in many places. I don’t see that going on for more than a quarter.
Absorb what costs?
You are talking like EvE is hemorrhaging money. What specific costs have gone through the roof that require a 30% cost increase?
I am not arguing against them raising prices. Its their game they can do as they like. I was simply pointing out that your comparison was poor.
As for raising prices they are welcome to do so. However anytime you raise prices you need to run the risk vs reward. EvE is an older game, it hasnt had a ton of new content in quite a while and just spiked hits costs by 30%.
Not a single other game has done so and many of them provide more content than EvE does.
We will get to find out pretty quick what the elasticity is on Eve pricing. Gas prices go up you have no choice but to pay. EvE online you have other options. Time will tell what the player base chooses.
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Inflation and costs of doing business. Those go up, that shows on earnings. They no like bad earnings.
So your argument is "the changes must have been good because there are still players "?
Before the rattati administration there were more than 25k (and current average is 20k). So let’s just turn your argument around: If everything from rattati was so great, why are there less players and not more, especially despite new NPE?
But back to the topic, I really have listed arguments, how about you respond to them for once instead of coming with assumptions about my “mentality” 
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“Inflation and costs of doing business” is a nebulous term that is more or less meaningless and can be used to justify literally anything. Inflation is hitting the US rather hard at the moment but the fall out from said inflation is still a bit away. Prices are going to start going up for sure across the board on a lot of things.
Costs are not up 30%.
30% is a massive knee jerk reaction. In the world of MMO’s where 14.99 has been the gold standard for over a decade making a 30% jump when most of the competition is going 100% free to play with battle passes and cosmetics is a epic failure on their part in the form of creativity.
Their player base is shrinking. Their revenue is down. Increasing prices is going to exacerbate the player numbers and retention and new player conversions. It MIGHT break even but its definitely not going to be making them mega bucks.
There are ways to increase revenue that dont require a 30% spike in your retail pricing.
Eve has been struggling to find a way to monetize their game effectively. Selling kits, ships, skills etc were all attempts at eve to monetize their game.
We sadly don’t get to see the metrics behind the scenes but what the CSM’s have said EvE’s own cosmetic reports aren’t accurate and there are TONS of options there to milk that they simply refuse to do.
Again Im all for eve making money, Id even be fine with a 10- 15% increase in sub costs. But a 30% cost is insane. Ignoring the community begging for cosmetics to throw money at is insane. The list goes on.
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In short, ccp, in the last 2-3 years, have not give us a good update that wasn’t a the scope video about event that could justified a reason for the massive increase price
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Inflation does not show up as its own thing. It is a part of the cost of doing business. And nothing in the PA earnings reports has shown any need to raise prices. We’ll have the info for Q1 of 2022 the Thursday after Fanfest.
I agree, this would make me very happy as I too have multiple characters on multiple accounts. This would be a fantastic change for OMEGA account holders.
It’s not so surprising that it gets more expensive - we’re running something like 7% inflation where I live so a price hike was perhaps inevitable.
However, gouging your customers 33% against a backdrop of ~7% inflation on what is, after all, a luxury or discretionary spending, disposable income, however you want to call it seems somewhat abusive - If they’d said hey, sorry guys, your $15 has to now cost $16.5 it would have seemed like a reasonable adjustment but just jacking prices by a third is… yikes.
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Ok, here it goes. I’ve been playing Eve off and on since 2003.
I’ve unsubbed 5 accounts, and there’s a good chance I’ll unsub my main.
Here’s why.
- The 33% price increase made me realize how much money I was spending on a game that was ultimately unfulfilling.
Can I afford it? Of course. I cut out Starbucks and Avocado Toast many years ago.
Am I willing to pay $120 a month plus more for MCT etc., for playing Eve? NO.
The price increase made me calculate how much money I would be spending on Eve each year, even at the cheapest long term rate. Then I thought about what else I could buy with that money. Then I realized that whatever enjoyment I gained from playing Eve (precious little, let me tell you) simply wasn’t worth that amount of money.
Then I looked again at how much money I would spend even without the price increase, and I realized that Eve wasn’t worth it even then. So, I cancelled 5 out of 6 subs.
- But why isn’t Eve worth it? The core gameplay isn’t fun. It requires a lot of time and it’s not particularly enjoyable.
In a nutshell,
Eve is boring. Ratting, missions, mining, whatever, it’s boring. I guess PVP can be exciting, but to do PVP you need the isk, and to get the isk you need to grind the boring stuff. My time is valuable, and the core PVE gameplay is a chore. And no, I’m not going to spend even more money to plex my isk to support PVP.
The slight enjoyment I got from Eve was the sense of accomplishment I got from doing something, like ratting the hardest anoms, or strip mining a belt, or living in nullsec. The doing of it wasn’t fun, and a lot of the time it was a drag, but I did get a sense of accomplishment that kept me going.
Something else that kept me going was putting my own creativity into the game. I put my own creativity into my characters, their backstories, all that. That gave them meaning for me. I liked the idea of interacting with Eve’s lore, but it was all boring missions. It was like eating dry oatmeal to get the cheap plastic toy at the bottom of the box.
I realized that the Eve’s core gameplay experience just wasn’t compelling enough for me to spend time on it, and that my own creativity and love for the characters I’d created was what was keeping me going. It was a sunk cost of another kind, I guess.
- CCP’s behavior.
Responses like this are very insulting:
Over the years there’s been problem after problem, insult after insult, including the petty vindictiveness of CCP against one of my real life friends regarding a billing dispute. After reading about how CCP “functions” internally, I don’t feel right about giving this company any more money.
So, i’ll probably drop back to alpha, see what the future brings.
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