[Discussion] PLEX and Omega price changes feedback thread

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4489

Even if I would agree that the price for single account is fine, which I don’t or that that price increase was justified somehow, which it really wasn’t.

Then even then the end result of raising the prices is that lot of players quit. Which then further increases the need to replace those players with alts.

I would understand the price increase if at the same time CCP made changes which would reduce the amount of alts we need to do stuff we want such as high industry, efficient mining or highsec ganking. But I feel it is the opposite and CCP is making changes that are increasing number of players/accounts you need to do stuff. All while the PCU is only going down.

I don’t want to multibox and I don’t. Still won’t pay even for single account because I don’t like what CCP is (not) delivering.

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4490

@CCP_Swift Thank you for posting that as I have been wanting to say this since I started: the price of $20€ monthly subscription isn’t negligible but the more I play the more I see how deep and interesting this game is and the more I think it’s worth it. I gladly spent cash to get PLEX and also bought the Gold Pack on Steam, so I’m now Omega and loving it. Plus $20€ isn’t going to make or break me anyway. I’ve already cut down drastically on the fast food every month which means I certainly gain more than $20€ once it’s all said and done.

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4492

We will call it the CCP diet, helps your wallet and yourself lose weight.

Tell that to people in poor countries. Entitled aren’t we?

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4494

The CCP diet it is then. Besides, all that processed food can only lead to a bad ending. Personally I don’t need to lose any weight as I already lost 40lbs due to an onset of cancer that’s now been delt with ( I’m a survivor, even cancer cannot get me ) but I don’t want to regain the weight through fast food fats. I already feel healthier by trading the burgers for fruits.

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4495

Big congrats on your victory friend

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4496

Thanks! I could’ve been a goner a few times in my life already. Happy to still be here.

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4497

@ Madamal Yiryi Dethahal

Well if no one speaks out about their not liking the price increase CCP will not know about the money potential that is held back from them unless they present a better deal.

Almost always there are complains about no feedback and no understanding why marketing fails and what the reasoning behind discontent might me… and here we are…people are giving the feedback and are told to shut up for “whining”. Maybe you should get out of your isolated country now and then and get a feeling for the world and other peoples situations they might be in?

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4499

a lot are crying about “eve never raised prices in 20 years”… well… no… but lets even pretend…

it was overpriced for 20 years…
and after inflation it was about to catch up…
but eve been almost normal on a price for a not normal game cant be… .so it had to be changed.
while they keep dumping eve money into cra… i mean state of the art games which suddenly keep disappearing and dont make any money…

so…

from my feeling… the problems are somewhere else… not inflation…
but… greed is good right?

While i eat my avocado Toast, i hope enough did stop paying instead of just keep whining :D,

but if eve is worth 40$ per month for you, feel free too pay whatever suits you,

i reconcider it if i see a offer for 10$ max per month (like the first time omega bait offerings), thats more than enough for the 5 times i log into the game each month in average.

But 20$ for how it is now? Just to pay up for the mess and lost money for their adventures? … - nah i pass.

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4501

I think the issue is the discrepancy between what PA deem a healthy game and what the community deem a healthy game.

It seems like PA believe that there could be 100 people left playing the game but as long as they hit budget then everything is hunky dory and successful because let’s face it, they are shareholders who care about nothing but money. However, the community who lives and breathes the game knows that population density is key to success. I started in 2017 so a toddler in Eve terms and it felt so alive back them. Now it feels barren.

Multiboxing was a big part of inflating that immersion and interaction, it might be false in real world population terms but it certainly helped Eve feel dynamic and alive so anyone against it is a fool, pure and simple.

PA and CCP need to look at ways to bring people in or increase multiboxing to make Eve feel alive again and then explore avenues for revenue generation.

Cat ears when…

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4502

yeah thats another point.

tbh i dont like multi-boxing… its just makeing off the playernumbers.
I mean, sure… if you can do it, and like to do it… and if its your way to go to play your own mining fleet… why not…

never got the point of it… but i assume if you can upscale to a point you make x times the isk and with just less than x times the effort… and thats why so many do it…

But if there is in average just one human behind 4-20 player ingame… its kinda sad.

I mean, getting a fight out of 20 different player in space instead of 1 Player with 20 Alts… its different…
so… getting more real player into space… instead of keep pushing the few remaining player into doing more and more alts… would be better — in my oppinion- for the health of the game.

Hell if we would have the action and movement we had in 2013 when i played the first time,
the amount of real player in corps etc… i would maybe not even bother to pay 20$ per month or even more, couse i had a lot of fun.

But now, ns is held by a few ppl, who only agree to not letting small groups move in… beside that its almost everywhere just empty… beside of some times a single ishtar ratting 24/7 here and there…

And the new prices will help for sure paying for their next stupid game they mess up…
but not for eves health… no matter if it comes to the multiboxing or real player health…

and thats what eve was always lacking of, and will now lack even more.

I will remain alpha, so i can check in from time to time,
will be enough and nothing is exactly what i am willing to pay for eve right now.

so have fun or not -whatever,
fly safe

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4503

Wast majority of those multiboxing alts are not visible or interact-able with.

They are alts that are doing industry jobs and PI in some nullsec citadel on demand and never move outside of their sector.
They are mining alts in highsec which you cannot wardec.
They are ganker alts who are docked/tethered till they land on their prey.

Some of them might be interact able with, but that still doesn’t make the space feel any more crowded than it is, in fact most players feels desperation when they run into these multibox fleets of miners or gankers.

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4504

Ooo feedback thread.

cracks knucles

I’m one of those rare old players who only plays one account.

5$ dollars really doesn’t mean much, and I don’t think I’ve had to pay the sub itself since the change, the variety of packs at the 20-25 dollar range have been a good enough value. I’ve always said this is the best mmo and I don’t mind voting with my dollar. I enjoyed DUST 514 sooooo much, I’d be delighted to know any of that extra cost was going to the development of a successor that’ll see the light of day.

Rising plex to isk value means that if I do feel swiping the card not to grind, I actually get a meaningful value, but it’s not so bad that paying for Omega with ISK is out of the question, or even that much more difficult than it was before.

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4505

Good thing I already lost interest when Pearl Abyss got involved. I knew it was a good idea to escape the FOMO early. I still have about a month of PLEX, but at this stage I think I’m just going to let my account rot in the database and forget about CCP/PA as a whole.

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4506

I’m surprised that anyone even pays the $14.95… Good Luck!

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4507

Well, I personally play solo (no alts) just mine all the time when watching movies. Otherwise have a life and job and can dedicate maybe 5 hours per week. This is not enough for the grind to generate 2b isk for 500 plex. You roughly need around 70m, give or take, per day to be able to afford that.

So basically 2b for plex

  • ships for pvp
  • ships for pve
  • losses eperienced through either of the previous
  • structures
  • etc. etc.

I switched to CC cause I dont want a job after my job. Then again, I understand players that run multiple accounts, all my mates run 2-3 accounts per head. And most of them just seem to be downsizing lately. Due to either no time, price increase and the lack of the fun factor.

Overall not happy with the Omega increase cause if you want to change the price, offer me something new…

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4508

You sir are not actually playing the game.

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4509

Ive not got an issue with the price hike if and i mean if there was better content.
Today for instance i did 8 relic sites in Null. 5 sites give out a max of 4mil isk each hardly making it worth the risk to reward factor. 1 however was 102mil isk. But again that was a pure fluke.
Data sites again dont have the risk to reward factor.
Combat sites again ive done around 25 in the last few days. Only 1 spawned a faction ship. Again not really keeping the interest.

4510

Agree with you, however higher reward in ISK doesn’t make the content itself any better. What you are getting fun from isn’t really content itself, but the reward. Simple human psychology.

So you can edit your post and replace content with reward. It will be more accurate.

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4511

No they are not playing your game. Its a sandbox to play as you wish. Bob Rock is playing there game.

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4512

He is botting, he is just doing that without software, but otherwise it is the same.