We will call it the CCP diet, helps your wallet and yourself lose weight.
Tell that to people in poor countries. Entitled aren’t we?
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The CCP diet it is then. Besides, all that processed food can only lead to a bad ending. Personally I don’t need to lose any weight as I already lost 40lbs due to an onset of cancer that’s now been delt with ( I’m a survivor, even cancer cannot get me ) but I don’t want to regain the weight through fast food fats. I already feel healthier by trading the burgers for fruits.
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Big congrats on your victory friend
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Thanks! I could’ve been a goner a few times in my life already. Happy to still be here.
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Well if no one speaks out about their not liking the price increase CCP will not know about the money potential that is held back from them unless they present a better deal.
Almost always there are complains about no feedback and no understanding why marketing fails and what the reasoning behind discontent might me… and here we are…people are giving the feedback and are told to shut up for “whining”. Maybe you should get out of your isolated country now and then and get a feeling for the world and other peoples situations they might be in?
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a lot are crying about “eve never raised prices in 20 years”… well… no… but lets even pretend…
it was overpriced for 20 years…
and after inflation it was about to catch up…
but eve been almost normal on a price for a not normal game cant be… .so it had to be changed.
while they keep dumping eve money into cra… i mean state of the art games which suddenly keep disappearing and dont make any money…
so…
from my feeling… the problems are somewhere else… not inflation…
but… greed is good right?
While i eat my avocado Toast, i hope enough did stop paying instead of just keep whining :D,
but if eve is worth 40$ per month for you, feel free too pay whatever suits you,
i reconcider it if i see a offer for 10$ max per month (like the first time omega bait offerings), thats more than enough for the 5 times i log into the game each month in average.
But 20$ for how it is now? Just to pay up for the mess and lost money for their adventures? … - nah i pass.
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I think the issue is the discrepancy between what PA deem a healthy game and what the community deem a healthy game.
It seems like PA believe that there could be 100 people left playing the game but as long as they hit budget then everything is hunky dory and successful because let’s face it, they are shareholders who care about nothing but money. However, the community who lives and breathes the game knows that population density is key to success. I started in 2017 so a toddler in Eve terms and it felt so alive back them. Now it feels barren.
Multiboxing was a big part of inflating that immersion and interaction, it might be false in real world population terms but it certainly helped Eve feel dynamic and alive so anyone against it is a fool, pure and simple.
PA and CCP need to look at ways to bring people in or increase multiboxing to make Eve feel alive again and then explore avenues for revenue generation.
Cat ears when…
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yeah thats another point.
tbh i dont like multi-boxing… its just makeing off the playernumbers.
I mean, sure… if you can do it, and like to do it… and if its your way to go to play your own mining fleet… why not…
never got the point of it… but i assume if you can upscale to a point you make x times the isk and with just less than x times the effort… and thats why so many do it…
But if there is in average just one human behind 4-20 player ingame… its kinda sad.
I mean, getting a fight out of 20 different player in space instead of 1 Player with 20 Alts… its different…
so… getting more real player into space… instead of keep pushing the few remaining player into doing more and more alts… would be better — in my oppinion- for the health of the game.
Hell if we would have the action and movement we had in 2013 when i played the first time,
the amount of real player in corps etc… i would maybe not even bother to pay 20$ per month or even more, couse i had a lot of fun.
But now, ns is held by a few ppl, who only agree to not letting small groups move in… beside that its almost everywhere just empty… beside of some times a single ishtar ratting 24/7 here and there…
And the new prices will help for sure paying for their next stupid game they mess up…
but not for eves health… no matter if it comes to the multiboxing or real player health…
and thats what eve was always lacking of, and will now lack even more.
I will remain alpha, so i can check in from time to time,
will be enough and nothing is exactly what i am willing to pay for eve right now.
so have fun or not -whatever,
fly safe
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Wast majority of those multiboxing alts are not visible or interact-able with.
They are alts that are doing industry jobs and PI in some nullsec citadel on demand and never move outside of their sector.
They are mining alts in highsec which you cannot wardec.
They are ganker alts who are docked/tethered till they land on their prey.
Some of them might be interact able with, but that still doesn’t make the space feel any more crowded than it is, in fact most players feels desperation when they run into these multibox fleets of miners or gankers.
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Ooo feedback thread.
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I’m one of those rare old players who only plays one account.
5$ dollars really doesn’t mean much, and I don’t think I’ve had to pay the sub itself since the change, the variety of packs at the 20-25 dollar range have been a good enough value. I’ve always said this is the best mmo and I don’t mind voting with my dollar. I enjoyed DUST 514 sooooo much, I’d be delighted to know any of that extra cost was going to the development of a successor that’ll see the light of day.
Rising plex to isk value means that if I do feel swiping the card not to grind, I actually get a meaningful value, but it’s not so bad that paying for Omega with ISK is out of the question, or even that much more difficult than it was before.
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Good thing I already lost interest when Pearl Abyss got involved. I knew it was a good idea to escape the FOMO early. I still have about a month of PLEX, but at this stage I think I’m just going to let my account rot in the database and forget about CCP/PA as a whole.
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I’m surprised that anyone even pays the $14.95… Good Luck!
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Well, I personally play solo (no alts) just mine all the time when watching movies. Otherwise have a life and job and can dedicate maybe 5 hours per week. This is not enough for the grind to generate 2b isk for 500 plex. You roughly need around 70m, give or take, per day to be able to afford that.
So basically 2b for plex
- ships for pvp
- ships for pve
- losses eperienced through either of the previous
- structures
- etc. etc.
I switched to CC cause I dont want a job after my job. Then again, I understand players that run multiple accounts, all my mates run 2-3 accounts per head. And most of them just seem to be downsizing lately. Due to either no time, price increase and the lack of the fun factor.
Overall not happy with the Omega increase cause if you want to change the price, offer me something new…
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You sir are not actually playing the game.
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Ive not got an issue with the price hike if and i mean if there was better content.
Today for instance i did 8 relic sites in Null. 5 sites give out a max of 4mil isk each hardly making it worth the risk to reward factor. 1 however was 102mil isk. But again that was a pure fluke.
Data sites again dont have the risk to reward factor.
Combat sites again ive done around 25 in the last few days. Only 1 spawned a faction ship. Again not really keeping the interest.
Agree with you, however higher reward in ISK doesn’t make the content itself any better. What you are getting fun from isn’t really content itself, but the reward. Simple human psychology.
So you can edit your post and replace content with reward. It will be more accurate.
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No they are not playing your game. Its a sandbox to play as you wish. Bob Rock is playing there game.
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He is botting, he is just doing that without software, but otherwise it is the same.
So, let me get this straight. You work hard in a job, to come home and play a game that has literally become a second job for you to play?
I recommend either budgeting money from your first job to play this game so the game is no longer a job for you and you can just enjoy it, or just leave this game and pursue something more life-giving and filling for you.
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TL;DR: CCP if you don’t fix the prices back to what they were before, this game is at the end.
And here’s the proof:
So there was this price increase to 20$/€ by 35% for a single month of EVE Omega game time, I always wondered who could be so mentally challenged as to think that was a good idea. But well. Here we are, according to EVE-Offline :: EVE-Online Status monitor in the last month, there has been an average of 16000 players logged in.
In the last six months since the price increase, EVE has lost a whopping 7000 players on average, six months ago there was an average of 24000 players logged in, which was already 10000 players less than the all time average. Let that sink in.
Since it’s just an average, it’s safe to assume that EVE lost about 50% of its real players during that time.
Sure, it was a very hot summer in the northern hemisphere, but that doesn’t justify being back at 2004 player numbers (on average). I was in EVE Online at the time, and it seemed pretty empty then compared to EVE’s heyday. It wasn’t engaging. Not enough content.
Only player controlled structures, wormholes and filaments allow us to still find each other, but every week it feels a little less active.
When a sandbox is empty, it’s just a barren desert. What keeps me going is the fact that I’m a member of a huge and awesome community in EVE, the best and nicest imaginable, of course, the Pandemic Horde, a group of players that defeated the Imperium within a month of setting up and even killed the last anchored (Imperium) Keepstar on the same day (Thank you, Alterari Phoenix, for that, again!).
For no other reason I’m sticking with this. But if there’s no change in pricing policy, I promise you we’re already riding a dead horse. No new player will upgrade from Alpha, certainly not the younglings of today. They simply can’t afford it in times of energy crisis and won’t do it as long as there are games on the market that you can play for free for a lifetime.
And especially considering there were no Alpha accounts, almost no bots, and only a few people multiboxing, the 2004 average player count we’re seeing now is the harbinger of death for this game.
Please, let’s not unsubscribe because we’re bored to death in a desolate wasteland.
And no, fixing sounds and introducing adaptive sync into the game after 20 years will not solve this problem.
The price increase was the biggest error of the last two decades after a wave of already serious blows.
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