[Discussion] PLEX and Omega price changes feedback thread

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I’m just using myself as an example. I actually did try alot of things while my characters were alpha’d. I bought/sold/made antimatter ammo and tried market pvp, on another character I tried out faction warfare. On another, I did wormhole though thats pretty much where I came from at the time.

Doing the ammo creation I did it myself so I had to mine as well. The goal wasn’t maximizing profit perse, but to figure out how / what I need to do inorder to buy / sell / make a product. Inorder to maximize it I would have had to do a bit more but I still did it. I didn’t do it optimally, which again is the point of trying out an activity. I also didnt need alot of isk for what I was trying to do.

I’ll take that a step forward and assume that I assumed that its people in poorer countries that can’t afford the game. That still falls into the catgeory of it shouldn’t be something they should be focused on imo. When I couldn’t pay I just…didn’t and thats ok doesn’t make you any less or any better of a person.

The majority of the people are not from poorer countries complaining about this. The majoritiy of the people have money, but they don’t have money to justify 2 or maybe 3 accounts which they don’t have to do. They are unwilling to downscale their respective gameplay that RELIED on them having multiple alts to justify paying for. If your activity relies on you having multiple alts, and you are unable to pay for said alts because the ingame price of plex isn’t scaling to the activity your doing, then the problem is YOUR operation otherwise, you pay real money costs to keep up that operation, or I guess upscale the operation more to the point of burnout <.< either way the problem is YOURS and not CCP’s.

Yea, CCP may have a problem wtih this but I certainly don’t. These players that are quitting are fine to me. It isn’t healthy to be playing something that is causing you emotional or mental pain, and disrupting your real life. My issue is for the ones that quit, and stay here, or on reddit using this platform to vent of what could have been

Its the equivalent of constantly talking about your ex partner that you broke up with every day. You haven’t gotten over it but your saying that you have. Though this is actually like constantly badgering them on social media with passive aggressive actions. Your thinking your doing this from a good place when in reality you need to give more space and actually leave the relationshio and move on.

Let them leave, I run new fleets and see new players all the time. New worlds PCU on steam dropped from the highest any game has seen, to one of the lowest, around 25k concurrent users

So yea, its fine.

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Imagine being a suck up to a greedy CEO.

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Now that is one weird fantasy.

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Well, I didn’t pay you earlier, probably I will pay now, when you want more fore your broken and not evolving game. Good job!

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I came to renew 2 accounts. Instead, I made this post… sorry CCP, but reading there are no game improvements (none that I would like as a wormholer) and the price still got increased by 25% is a no go for me.
I guess I won Eve - forever.

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4475

On the contary, you just got ganked by CCP

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4476

That sir, is how one does win EvE. Simply declaring it!

Welcome to the end game content. Mucking about with the character editor and ■■■■ posting on the forums! Glad you made it.

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Imagine being weak enough to letting a greedy CEO control how you play.

Imagine being not social enough to replace alts with people.

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Do you actually have a point?

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No new content for over 2 years and now a price INcrease? Is CCP trying to kill the game?

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Nice so if you do 3 months at a time its free now?

0.00 a month?

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The point, is the prices are fine if your paying for one account. You all could afford paying a laughing 2-3 accounts and felt that it was mandatory, but won’t replace those accounts with players.

You won’t downscale your operations and activities, because you’ve been used to paying with plex while the plex was alot cheaper. (I don’t mean You Ramona, but in general) so its alot easier to just do it yourself (in your eyes)

Now the plex is more expensive ingame, and you have to make almost twice the amount of isk inorder to plex you account(s) for no out of game money.
OR
You willingly paid 30$ for two accounts in the past because its what was standard because you wouldn’t find players to do X activity that your alt could do faster.

Let me be clear.

If you paid more than 15$+ for this game (“out of neccesity”) and your now complaining that this game is 20$ because now YOU have to pay 40$ for 2 accounts and its too much when you could have downscaled to one account and saved yourself money, then its you thats greedy and its you thats the hypocrite.

If your complaining about 20$ price tag and your paying for just one account, thats a bit more valid. I may not neccesarily agree, but if being compared to other games I could understand the argument in a way.

EVE has alot of content in it and over the years that content came for free. No one can argue that point. This game has been releasing content for free since the early 2000’s. They’ve could have been like every other developer and put a price tag on those expansions or content releases. This game not releasing content for two years but making the attempt to clean itself up as a product (or atleast attempt to) is fine. If you’ve been with the game since then its hard to see that.

When you are newer however, the amount of content this game has is staggering. And (as it should) would take time to actually achieve all of it, most people have actually not done that in fact.

If your coming back to the game and nothing really new is going on…thats a valid reason not to come back as well. I’m not arguing that if you don’t have anything new you want to do in the game why would you come back? Anyone (as its happening now) who isn’t getting enjoyment out of the game shouldn’t be playing.

20$ trims the amount of multi boxers, also trims the amount of people who want to spend money on multiple accounts for leisure, I already see it with people leaving saying they unsubbed 12x accounts. Thats actually a good pallete cleanser in my opinion. They don’t need to be here

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If you say so.

Many disagree.

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Because you don’t agree with there play style?

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Your playstyle? Thats not a playstyle.
Playing with one account? Thats not a playstyle either.

Playing a game enough to where it becomes free? Hmm I don’t regard that as a playstyle.

Mining? Cool thats a playstyle.
Gas Scooping? Cool? thats a playstyle too!

Having 12 accounts is making the concious choice to optimize your operation as big as possible, and that rely’s on the plex being a certain amount otherwise your spending alot more time than you did prior. That isn’t a playstyle that is a choice of optimization that you can apply to anything, mining, oplexing, flying capitals, hauling.

You don’t need to be there because your fun relies on the plex being low enough to where it makes sense to do the activities you did before to remain profitable and keep your alts inline and because you literally fill the spots of other players and are able to actually overwhelm content (like new event sites) because you have 4 other venture alts and this new player just has one character.

Yea, I’ll die on that hill too. Mutliboxers need to go

Don’t get it twisted, that LOSES CCP Money playing with one character makes CCP alot less money than playing with multiple from a surface value perspective atleast.

At the very least, if your multiboxing understand that your playstyle is determined by plex prices and understand that you may either need to upscale or downscale your operations based on that. But crying to CCP like they did something wrong aint it.

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Was paying for 3 subs, now just one, as you say. A loss for CCP.

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well that’s your opinion for what its worth (not much me thinks)

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You going to compensate CCP for the lost income?

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Even if I would agree that the price for single account is fine, which I don’t or that that price increase was justified somehow, which it really wasn’t.

Then even then the end result of raising the prices is that lot of players quit. Which then further increases the need to replace those players with alts.

I would understand the price increase if at the same time CCP made changes which would reduce the amount of alts we need to do stuff we want such as high industry, efficient mining or highsec ganking. But I feel it is the opposite and CCP is making changes that are increasing number of players/accounts you need to do stuff. All while the PCU is only going down.

I don’t want to multibox and I don’t. Still won’t pay even for single account because I don’t like what CCP is (not) delivering.

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@CCP_Swift Thank you for posting that as I have been wanting to say this since I started: the price of $20€ monthly subscription isn’t negligible but the more I play the more I see how deep and interesting this game is and the more I think it’s worth it. I gladly spent cash to get PLEX and also bought the Gold Pack on Steam, so I’m now Omega and loving it. Plus $20€ isn’t going to make or break me anyway. I’ve already cut down drastically on the fast food every month which means I certainly gain more than $20€ once it’s all said and done.

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