I’m all for this! Double my training speed at least sheesh
April 1st was weeks ago. Really.
I had just decided to bite the bullet and go Omega for the first time ever. Was looking forward to trying out PI, and cool new ships.
Unfortunately, the subscription was already expensive, especially when converted to NZD. With the incoming price hike, I can’t justify it. Especially in the current climate, with the cost of living through the roof.
I know it was only one sub lost, but it was a new one.
Disappointing.
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I’m going to keep posting it until CCP has the balls to tell me directly they’re removing it rather than hiding behind ISD cronies:
CCP’s astonishingly poor business and balancing decisions mean that rather than raking in the cash hand over fist with a proper skinning system that includes structures and towers and whatnot, they have to increase the price of a sub to not go underwater, because they screwed the game so hard that they have less concurrent players than when I started playing.
This is pathetic, and Hilmar is lucky that Pearl Abyss seems content to let him run his game into the ground. At this point in time, I’d have difficulty deciding whether I want Hilmar at the helm, or a monkey with a dartboard.
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CCP has staff to pay, whose salaries have been getting adjusted for inflation while the sub price has remained constant for a very long time.
I don’t like it (nobody likes paying more), but I get it.
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Well I cannot. Wish I could but I agree. Pochvin was a real let down, They NEVER developed it. Just let it lie. I could have been great but nope. Plenty of bonehead moves. I have played for a good while now, and it was always a pay to play game for me. I never was able to put the time in to PLEX an account. It did not really bother me to spend the coin to keep multiple accounts active. Then came the Alpha/Omega thing, and I thought it could attract and keep new players so I was good with it. Now this. The content has been lacking lately. They made some bad changes in my opinion. Pochvin was a real loser. They went lazy with it. I will drop the subs for six accounts. Running all six priced me out of the market. It was just enough of an increase for me to say no. With the cost of everything going sky high I had to make a choice. I have had other accounts I dropped from time to time due to money. Or I just wanted to start fresh. I will wait and see.
Dang children I’m pushing 70
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But as has been pointed out, the sub is not the only source of income for CCP from the game. PLEX, Injectors, Extractors, Multiple Character Training, Skins, Packs, Expert Systems, etc…it’s not just a sub game anymore to compare it to when it was just a sub game.
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well said
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Tend to find FFXIV fun.
What a toady you are. Do you get a discount for it? Does it gain you a skin or something? Or do you just like to defend regardless?
No, THEY get it. 30% more of IT actually, and How much more did you make this year? 30%? I am tired as hell of hearing inflation this and inflation that. Bull crap, incompetent developers screwing their customers when they think they can it’s pretty simple they basically said we are raising rates with another promise of future improvement (which never happen). We have all heard it over and over.
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I thought the same thing, but nah. I cannot afford to even appear to keep up with the Joneses. Sigh.
yea add new content and YOU DAMN WELL BETTER GIVE US WHAT WE WANT NOT WHAT YOU THINK WE WANT FOR THIS PRICE!!!
Well…I was about to start Omega on a second account, but now the only thing I’m having is second thoughts.
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This would be true if we were talking about a yearly adjustment, but it’s not. The reality is this:
$22.11 in 2022 has the same purchasing power as $15 in 2004.
Their costs have been getting higher, the player base has been contracting as people age and move on with their lives, and Eve is not a teen-meme game to attract the young crowd. Something has to give.
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This is the only online game I have ever played. I have no idea what is out there. Does anyone have any ideas? I love science fiction. I have read some of the Halo books, Star Wars, that sort of thing.
Yeaaaah, no. If that were the case, you’d be seeing similar pricing from every MMO out there, especially the ones with larger staff/server farms/overhead. But we’re not seeing that. We’re not seeing it at all. Other games as old as EVE are still sitting at the lower price point—hell, some games nearly as old as EVE are at a significantly lower price point.
Moreover, if this is money they need, then Paragon wouldn’t have just gone into the EVE/FanFest Discord and told people ‘hey, no, don’t worry about the price increase because we’re going to have constant sale options for months so you can stay at a lower price’.
Really? They need the money, but they’re going to have sales so they… don’t make any more money? That doesn’t sound much like need to me. It sounds a lot like ‘we just want to get more money from as many of you as we can’.
We’ve been giving CCP long lists of ‘here are things you can do to monetize that we will eagerly embrace’ for many years now. They refuse to implement any of them, and they refuse to give us any kind of coherent ‘here’s why we can’t do that’ explanation.
Hell, CCP Paragon went onto that discord and bold-faced claimed that waiting for FanFest to give players the news of the price changes at the same time as they announced whatever ‘big thing’ they’re planning would be ‘cowardly’. Because dropping the news on a Friday, at 4:40pm Iceland time, as they’re leaving the office for the weekend… that wasn’t cowardly? It’s a classic Friday news dump combined with CCP’s usual ineptitude in execution.
Finally, they’ve spent the last 2.5+ years actively narrowing the variety of viable playstyles. At no point have they provided players with more options, only fewer. But they want more money from us. Maybe they should earn it first.
It’s insulting. Swallow the insult if you want, but you know, before I expect any raise at work, I expect to actually do my job. And they haven’t.
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This price is well beyond what any other major mmo asks. I mean Eve is cool, I’ve had fun so far, but not like $19.99 a month level fun. Reconsider this move.
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what did they teach us in economics?
if you decide your price, you need to concider your customer…
Usually let them pay more and you have less customer, let them pay less you get more find your sweetspot.
Less and less player and than letting them pay more… some of us left school early i guess.
Or they just want way less ppl playing eve to spare the hardware… than its a good move maybe.
But yeah, everyone have to decide how much is eve worth it.
If you dont care and want to throw 25$ or more out of the window… tell me where and when i will stand below the window.
Before i did keep the sub running even if doing half a year break.
-Thats off the Table for me now.
I also tryed a few things out and had 3 Alt accounts.
Was Eve worth for me 60$ each month?
it was my limit for just a Game… some time it wasnt, some times it was.
Now 80$ for nothing more than before? just for the promise maybe it will be better?
hell no i dont think they earn it…
BS about they are eating the inflation for 19 years… as much they lowered their upkeep with outsourceing so much to make more profit with the same income and reduceing the devs should be more than enought…
other did that too and THERE it worked…
so bs…
nice try 2nd account mod.
all 4 Accounts are Cancelled…
2 End next month, the other 2 in December.
so they have a few month to show they earn more… or just charge what they earn in the current state. -which wont happen if i look back the last years.
for what they give their player they should have reduce it to 12$ per month…
For 24$ a Month you can Sub WoW (12,99) AND FFXIV (10,99)
thats just 4$ more than just a single Omega…
so for me, nothing justify that.
waiting for the next white knight to backing CCP up for this BS
Maybe they should try actually improving the game and working to attract new players, instead of hamfisted flailing that limits viable playstyles, and focusing exclusively on revamping the NPE over and over again while not touching the clunky, horrible crap that comes after it, despite being told for more than five years that that is where their retention problem lies.
Seriously, this is NPE 5.0? 6.0? Fix missions. Fix the game you’re dumping players into after the NPE, CCP. Then hey! Maybe the game will be able to retain the new players you keep telling us are trying the game in record numbers.
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