That’s why the nullsec blackout’s still going, and interceptors can still run an entosis link, right?
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Ok super genius please enlighten us space karens with your vast collection of constructive feedback from all the skimming. What should happen then pay them and say nothing? What an weak pathetic individual to even have such thoughts.
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The reason we bother is because we are watching a company that told us forever and are actively removing that, if I did nothing more at work and asked for a 30% raise I’d get fired
And what’s wrong with that? CCP doesn’t have a right to your money.
If you don’t like what they are doing, you SHOULD stop paying them.
The problem is, many people (who don’t like what CCP is doing) will keep paying them to do it, That’s stupid as hell. It’s even unhealthy, because the truth is people posting think they can make CCP “see reason”.
It’s like having a bad boyfriend/girlfriend and staying because you think you can change them… CCP is going to CCP.
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I’d quite happily pay an extra £5 a month just to have a ‘rampage hour’ once a month where Concord get turned off. It’s clear most people don’t like paying more to just get the same thing.
Yes, it has an effect on both, I stopped pleasure driving after bozo was installed in office here. Gas prices went up rapidly. So did food etc. Almost overnight I changed my habits. As did many in my township. The effect? Prices stopped rising. And if more people took the same approach someone would get the hint…
Now as I have been sitting here monitoring this conversation. I have noted that what appears to be CCP and or their owners’ reps countering posting trying to stop the leaks here. Some of the comments are just outright abusive and degrading. Not everyone has the ability to work for their income. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have education around coding, business, or whatever makes decent money these days. To me, this money grab is an effort to attract new coders. Who knows? Seeing that the game has a lot of issues that have never been addressed. At times I wonder if this game was coded in Unix?? ( which is all but a lost computer language ) Even I know better than to put the cart before the horse. I do not support using the player base as a means of financing some hair-brained scheme to launch a new platform in the hopes it will make money for the owners.
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I agree. Best analogy yet. CCP is like an abusive boyfriend/girlfriend. "Why do you keep making me hit you? "
Yes, but honestly do you have one you like? Do you have one you tried and can recommend? I am kinda an old guy now. I hate to admit that I play Eve at my age. I never tell my friends. They would think I am crazy to spend real money on it, but I do enjoy it. I suppose I will keep one account active. One. Flying an Orca is nice, but you really need a small fleet to justify it. I am just about maxed out in one at this time. It took a while to get there. Blah blah blah. You know the rest. I thought about Elite Dangerous, but have heard negative about it. I am up in the air at the moment. But thanks for the input. I really wanted to make Fanfest one day. Now? Don’t know.
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Never mind the actual theory in economics over the concept of price and value.
As many others, there is almost a year since I last paid a sub with money, and my ISK is running out, the game itself is in a slump state, only adding cash grab content and events that make little to no sense.
If there was to be a reason for me to not sub anymore, that would be it. As there are many other reasons, like lack of content, the general changes in the game direction which I have been disliking over the years, this is just another one.
So, my Omerga, in the words of Ivan Drago: If it runs out, it runs out.
Good job CCP in proving the history of economics right: Rising taxes often lead to less income as less people actually do the things to pay that tax instead of paying more. As sub, or taxes, always have a model of setting patterns of behavior before it is a source of income for a “governance”.
So to rise income when rising “taxes”, there needs to be growth in quality of governance, which EVE has hardly had in the last years.
We are seeing a dip in quality and a run to the “lower standards of the market”, appealing to a demographic that actually dont like the game.
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You really want to make lists of things that CCP did anyway vs things that you like to think you forced them to change. “Alpha clones/free to play”, “Fozzie Sov” , “Skillpoint selling” and on and on.
I guarantee you will lose. Just because CCP let you think you matter, doesn’t mean you actually do.
So then continue on with Jenn’s analogy; why are you still here if you truly believe that? Shouldn’t you leave now? Shouldn’t you have left already?
Right now eve isn’t costing me anything to play.
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Guess I’ll be closing my two alts and just running my main I was barely affording it as it was.
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CCP Paragon already stated they weren’t changing on this. It’s within the first few minutes or so of the Discord recording linked earlier in the thread. That people will either be happy with the announcement at Fanfest and will stick around or they won’t. Pretty cut and dry. Not everybody has listened to it though. And well, some folks probably haven’t been around to notice that is how it tends to be. It could be a new misadventure for them.
Still, CCP asked for the feedback, whether one knows it’s going to be ignored or not, and simply dropping out a I can no longer afford that new price point or I do not think it is worth that new price point is pretty simple feedback, imho, and I wouldn’t lump those folks in with the people that are probably cheering themselves on as they cancel their subs while flipping the screen off.
It’s not my place to tell you what to do in the least, but I think there are plenty of juicy targets in this thread to mock without necessarily including other folks that probably aren’t even coming back to read the comments.
Yep I feel you
Even your sarcasm is classically Karen-esque.
You’re asking me to read through a mountain of emotional garbage and collect constructive feedback so that I can point to you what it looks like? Grow up, just ragequit already.
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I mean what a slap in the face, first Covid and then conflicts in Europe, inflation and other pressures driving up prices, and now the few things we have to enjoy and escape reality are going up too
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Thank you
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I have 2 non-EVE MMOs that I keep up with. In both cases, it’s because I love the setting, and they’re good at storytelling. SW:TOR is one of them. The storytelling is solid (especially the initial 50 levels’ storyline and then everything from Shadows of Revan onward), and the devs clearly love the source material. There’s microtransactions, but it’s pretty much all cosmetic stuff, and occasionally some convenience buffs (ie: nothing you can’t get by playing). The latest expansion decouples ‘class’ and ‘combat style’ so that if you put in the work, you can do things like jedi using dark side abilities or sith who tend toward the light.
The other, for basically exactly the same reasons, is The Lord of the Rings Online. Once again, the developers clearly love the source material. There’ve been a few moves where you can do the ‘hang on, does this fit?’ question, but there’s enough wiggle room to let them get away with it. And the storytelling is really good. The entire epic quest line (the through-line for the whole game) is 100% free, and they weave your group’s story around the novel’s story in ways that consistently put you in a supporting role—you’re never in a position to eclipse or take the place of book-canon characters, but your efforts are always critical to things lining up the way they have to, in order to allow Frodo et al to succeed. And now, they’ve moved into the beginning of the Fourth Age (though still before the departure of the Eldar) and are telling more really good stories that have the right kind of flavor and even an unexpected twist or so, while still fitting into Middle-Earth very well.
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