Do you consider yourself a solo player?

But it would be so much more entertaining. There’s nothing wrong with 30,000 players all doing their own thing. There’s nothing wrong with that at all.

“Nothing would ever get done”

What, pray tell, are we supposed to be getting done? I’m betting you made that statement without even having anything in mind.

Multiplayer combat sites that can’t be ran solo, incursions, Citadel defense fleets, mass manufacturing. For example, try building dreads or titans by yourself…

Thank you for that! I’ll keep that in mind.

None of this needs to get done, it’s just ISK. The only thing in the game that requires an army of people is mining specific rare moon chunks, that’s CCP’s one and only lever. If there was a way for solo players to reliably procure household quantities of moon minerals, which was made even harder, if not impossible, with the Metenox Moon Drill, we could just build our own stuff and play the game in peace.

So… you want players to be forced into corps so that titans can be built? No one in High Sec can build Titans… or dreads… Hardly anyone needs to do citadel defense. Citadels dont even mean much in High Sec.

No one said anything about high sec. You can solo in any security space. And if Citadels didn’t mean much in high sec, then why are there thousands of them? I know of systems where there are 20+ Athanors in a single system.

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I don’t know, but perhaps this has something to do with the fact that there are less and less players than before?

I know the numbers are basically the same for many years, but multiboxing is more and more frequent and so good 30% of the currently online players are just multibox alts?

I used to play with other players. But they left the game or wanted to do something else. So I replaced them with alt accounts… I guess that goes for most of us.

It is not easy to find someone who wants to do what you want to do and do it at the same time you do it. I feel it used to be easier when I started, maybe it never was, but when the option exists, replacing human beings with 100% loyal alts always logged in at the same time prepared to do same thing you want to do, is just absolutely logic choice that has only benefits. So it is not surprising that players tend to fly solo even if they are in not-self-made corporation.

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Long story short, EVE isn’t for the casual gamer. Never has been. If you are wanting to “get ahead”, “catch up”, or be able to compete, you have exactly three options. Join a good corp, multibox, or credit card warrior. That’s always been the case, and will always be the case.

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And the longer the game goes on, the more those three options are your only choices. You will never catch up to veterans who have hundreds of millions of SP and hundreds of billions or trillions in the bank. That’s just the way it is.

It’s that way now. People have been playing for 20 years and have more skill points than any new player will ever have. You can’t powerlevel in this game- you fill your queue and wait out the timer. That’s how you train. You simply wait out a timer unless you’re like me and buy injectors every week.

Good luck with that. It takes approximately 500 billion ISK in injectors to get from 100 million SP to 200 million. It would take literally trillions of ISK to catch up to players who have 200 to 300+ million SP.

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This is a good point. I would never have learned the nuances of the game as fast as did without help.

Actually, I can. And that’s why I joined the game. I did fine with 3 toons in a wh. We did fine against the null blks until the rule change. We small groups beat the null blk’s so bad, we now have null rule the game.

Thanks, otherwise I would never have had the spine chilling fear of the 1st time one of our corp said Goons are coming.

Apparently most of you don’t know what it feels like to punch above your weight. :thinking:

I’m happy with where I am now. I can fly almost any ship I want now. I’ve no desire to ever skill up to a carrier, dreadnought, or titan. I have no reason to ever fly one so it’d be a waste of SP and time.

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So you believe that no one in Null would ever do these things if they were encouraged to solo? The entirety of the null sec population would break up and go their separate ways?

Nonsense and you know it. It would never happen. Null sec players thrive on the supreme protection of large corporations that allow them to make trillions of ISK without any risk at all. You know this, but you don’t seem to want to admit it. Large Null Sec corps have no risk and trillions of ISK. They would keep going.

And citadels don’t mean much in High Sec. There are thousands, but go ahead and tell me how many of those are out of power right now. Or tell me all of the benefits of them. Go ahead and tell me of the hundreds of things I can do in a citadel that I cannot do in an NPC station. The list is really long, I’m sure. I can’t wait to read it.

Citadels mean more in Null because of the lack of stations. High Sec has stations all over the place and they’re 100% indestructible. I can park my entire fleet of ships- BILLIONS of ISK worth of stuff and never have to worry about defending it. I actually do always dock my ships in a station. Far safer than the two Athanors in the system. But Athanors aren’t citadels are they? So what is the long list of features that are unique to only citadels? What’s the advantage? It’s not great in High Sec. It’s pretty small.

This kindof turned into a basic discussion about the meaning of life in new eden

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Hey yes I do.

If you know what New Eden is, I’m afraid you don’t have a life. :man_raising_hand:

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Why should I. Real life is just escapism from Eve.
With more downtime (8h per day)

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Too true :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Do you consider yourself a solo player?

Only when I play by myself. Speaking of solo, I keep falling asleep during that movie. I get up to the point where he meets the wookie and just drift off. I would say it is better than sleeping pill.

Fly safe o7

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I’ve tried Corps in the past. Didn’t like it except for one small lowsec group. Exclusively solo gameplay, on and off since 08 (I usually just walk away from accounts that I’ve had). My playtime and availability keeps me from group stuff too. I mostly did mining, intel, and blockade running to pass the time.