If you can only do it without a combat timer, why would you even care how many drones you have deployed?
i guess it all comes down to only rattlesnake suitable for the task then?
i wonder when are they going to nerf rattlesnake.
drone ships used to be king of pve⌠now itâs âforbiddenâ or ânot suitedâ anymore.
exactly⌠only sentry sniping viable⌠and even sentry having problem cause even rats target them at 100km and try to kill them first.
disagree⌠the point of all these is to repair while fighting. having multiple âsame squadronâ of drones to swap them out.
Still at 100km out you should be able to counter them with reps or by cycling in and out while staying close to drones.
No thanks. Thereâs more to this game than farming level 4s and this suggestion has an impact on PvP situations where auto-aggression might save you the seconds you need to survive.
The gameâs not just about you.
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The difference is reloading guns is a right click away. Many drone ships can only carry one set of drones and reloading a drone bay requires having a depot on hand and deployed. Iâm not suggesting drone AI needs a fix but if this is the new norm perhaps how many drones we can fit in our bays needs to be looked at.
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Increasing drone bays is another change that would have a disproportionate impact on PvP. In missions you always have the option to warp out and collect more drones. This isnât really a problem.
Back when i started playing NPCâs that pulled aggro with players ship would NEVER attack players drones.
This is how it was made when eve online was created and the fact they changed this suggests that they donât want you to use drones in missions or in PVE scenarios.
Why change it ? if it was ok for more than 10 years of eve ? because they forbid drones in PVE content, itâs a fact.
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Thatâs some strawmanning right there and a whole lot of carebear whining.
They made the NPC slightly less braindead, they didnât make it difficult or impossible.
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Itâs called exploiting game mechanics with drones in ccpâs words, long time ago.
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CCP never stated that people were exploiting game mechanics because npc didnât change aggro. They changed the npc because it was dumb as hell to not have target changing npc in any MMO. On top of that, being carebears themselves, CCP wanted to make it safer for carebear mission runners so that if said carebear would get attacked the NPC could switch sides. Thatâs the reason NPC favour ships with tackle and ewar.
Youâre whining, still.
No, you donât.
Losing drones is not an acceptable solution. Warping off means losing the drones that are caught.
OP makes a correct statement here, that drones boats are screwed in the last updates in PVE activies. Only guristas can recall a drone thatâs being aggroed by the whole room.
Yet, is it bad ? It basically means that CCP made drones a secondary weapon system even for ships specialized in them, unless you are guristas or sentry user. They canât be used in many missions, or you need to specifically act with them needing to be recalled in mind : so either snipe from afar, with them taking no damage, or brawl as much as they do, so that you can recall them when they are dying.
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Heâs not wrong. OP should pay heed to this.
Losing drones is always an acceptable solution.
Not all ships need to be equally capable of all activities.
The suggestion that drones are always primaried by NPCs is also demonstrably false.
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Itâs not.
You donât do PVE to spend more money on the drones than you get as a reward.
You donât do PVE to warp off 200 times because rats aggroed your drones 200 times. Affirming that PVE is OK when you need to warp 200 times is just nonsensical BS here.
Unrelated. Drone boats MUST be usable in PVE, as much as turret or missile bots
Itâs locally true, though. Just because it did not happen to you does not mean it does not happen to other people.
It happens that your drones are repeatedly aggroed by the rats, like 1s after they get out.
IT also happens that your drone just disappear from the overview, without you even realizing the whole room have toggled aggro towards one rat.
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jesus pplâŚ
OP is a troll, or needs to learn to play, or go play something else.
Most missions without T2 variant frigates will not frag your drones let alone target them if you know what you are doing.
A T1 Vexor can run lv4âs no problemâŚagain if you know how to play.
So please OP, HTFU and go learn how to play cause right now you are pathetic.
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This is just patently false. No ship MUST be able to do any one specific task. Unless theyâre designed specifically for that task.
Drone boats are also excellent for PvE right now. No one personâs anecdotal experience disproves that.
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Yes, every T1 combat ships must be able to do the PVE missions of its level. Thatâs just part of the game design, and more specifically of the way missions are designed.
This is just patently false. No one personâs anecdotal experience proves that.
Yes, I am answering stupid things to your own stupid things.
Thatâs exactly as much as your answers are worth.
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Except the EDENCOM ships?
except what ?
edencom are pirat ships, not T1. You donât have BPOs for them.
And yes, they are â â â â AFAIK.
So if i can do level4âs, trig invasions, sleeper sites in whâs and anoms in null, all in drone boatsâŚi must be some kind of god right?
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