Drone ship pve in highsec l4 not viable anymore.. fix suggestion included

nerf drone boats
i mean they are to good for pvp and pve
and one can do lvl 4 missions afk with them , my suggestion is that the npcs agro on the drones more and them the player must use skills to make the drones faster or have more ehp and be aware all the time to return the drones to bay in case of damage , i think this will help to solve the massive abuse of drone boats and afk players

ā€œMassive abuseā€ ? Citation please…

its all over the internet bro

funny could not find the words ā€œmassive abuseā€ in the article you link.

can you give exactly what was actually written ?

Dravick was playing dumb. We all know that there is AFK drone bottling going on.

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agree, that’s why i prefer the drone auto repair in drone bay.

just a reminder for all about bling fit… i bling it out on singularity and it failed.

you took the words out of my brain. exactly.

sure, if you meant those small lv4’s mission. i would like to see you run vexor in real lv4’s such as angel extravaganza or world collide.

if you meant the guristas pirate line… no, they are missile boat more then drone boat.

that blog talk about afk farming in ā€œcertainā€ nullsec anomalies. again, making drone repair in drone bay doesn’t make it any more easier to ā€œafk farmingā€.

thanks for the support from some pilot who recognize the issue as well as player who disagree in constructive ways… and as always, you are free to flame about it as well.

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And the discussion is about L4, so the situation is not related (AFAIK)

They are both. But AFAIK only rattle has the bonus that make the drones able to survive.

Also, that is just wrong : rattle are able to do L4, in the sense of they have added tank, does not make them good at doing L4s.
Unless you want to bore someone to suicide, that is. Yes, I met someone who quit Eve after playing rattle as the gameplay was too boring and he thought he had lost his time training for a rattler.

Well, Still I disagree with you : I think drone-only boats should not exist.
So, boats with added drone bonus okay, but they need do deal less damage with drones than with primay weapons.

I totally would not mind giving all drones a buff to EHP and a reduction to DPS.
though in reality, I don’t really care. I don’t like gila and rattle, because IMO they make Eve an inactive gameplay session.

I like double rep brawler dominix, hyperion, and the truth is that those ships are completely removed since the last update that removed a huge percentage of their rep and made sentry fits just plainly better.

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true on this. which also say all the other drone ships is pretty much useless for pve thanks to their drone unable to survive even with deck out durability implants and rigs.

Mostly it sounds like the OP is not actively and strategically managing drones as part of the build and the combat plan.

Select drones with higher shield HP, which regens. Select drones with higher speed, which get hit less and disengage more quickly. User smaller drones to take out the frigs, then switch to larger. Cycle drones individually back to drone bay, so the AIs lose their target and have to switch. Add implants that increase drone survivability.

The only suggestion in the OP which I agree with is to make drones need to be targeted like every other weapon type. The use of auto-attack in farming, botting and AFK play has been abused for far too long.

CCP, of course, will pretend that’s not an issue, because they don’t want to rock the boat with the literally thousands of players using droneboats to farm trillions of ISK.

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how about this and also make drone auto repair while in drone bay?
give and take?

Gee, I’m not much of a PvEer but isn’t that the whole point, to make AI smarter? :crazy_face:

OP should switch to PvP, players are meanwhile getting dumber :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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There was bots that were farming using supercarrier, so the target management has never been an issue for bots. In fact, depending on your fit in some cases in a VNI you could remain yellow boxed by some rats, meaning your drones would never attack them.

So the complain about auto aggro making the bots possible is complete BS.

Indeed, its not an issue. Whatever the quantity of isk created is.

I would however totaly agree if you were instead talking about inactive gameplay, where your dones are killing stuff while you can make yourself a cup of tea.

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Good riddance

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As a true Scotsman, can confirm that no true Scotsman would post that image :stuck_out_tongue:

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ā€œIf you can only do it without a combat timer, why would you even care how many drones you have deployed?ā€

In case you get jumped. Like repairing an overheated module.

Repairing drones is only a balancing problem for PvP balancing. In PvE you usually have time to dock somewhere and repair them; it’s just a pain.

I mean, I can kind of see that? But…it sounds like a very very fringe case scenario.

Also, if you’re repairing your drones in a non-(immediately) hostile environment, then you don’t really need your bay to do it, since you can carry a light armor bot, and take care of it that way.

Emergency bay repairs would be particularly good for hostile situations, and could be balanced if they have a proper cost attached, like, let’s say, 2x of the repaired EHP value in terms of paste used.

No you just ran out of worthwhile things to say.

Show me the acceptance criteria that supports your statement? Or is it just something you pulled out of your ass?

Dominix