Encounter Surveillance System Update

Then you only other alternative is to make sure you farm less than 500m isk per 25 hours, because that’s the threshold where the Dynamic Bounty System will drop.

That means that you have to spread out, which means you need to spend your time raising the ADMs… which means doing frigate sites… and the DBS is dropping anyway coz of the work done to raise the ADM… then you are still sitting at 60-80% DBS and getting 8-10mil ticks while the ADM drops down because you are spread out.

Less people rat and go back to hi-sec to do lvl 4’s etc coz that makes them more isk/hour, and now you have less ratters to help out and less defense/support.

PvP’rs coming through the region have dropped significantly since this change so there is nothing to get the DBS back up… system sits at the 60-80% and stagnates.

‘Don’t get to 500 million’ = ‘we will limit and moreso punish your activity in this “sandbox” environment’ - especially when you goto sleep and wake up to find that the Russians have come into the system you’ve been cultivated and massacred it because they’ve dropped their own systems DBS to the floor.

And it punishes PvP’rs (gankers) that like to roam - there just isn’t as much action happening. All we can do is hope to pick off the explorers who still abound.

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How about fighting the Russians invading your system, trying to get all the rewards you guys worked hard for?

If it’s because you have zero players on to defend your system, why shouldn’t the Russians, or anyone else for that matter, not come and grab some free slices of that sweet pie you guys made and left defenseless overnight?

It’s almost as if owning and mantaining a null sec system is hard work, and requires good infrastructure and logisticts to not be taken away by other forces.

yep, the rewards we worked for , they get because we cannot be on 24/7. the real truth is that CCP wants to starve players from earning isk, not to balance the economy but so they can sell you . and i quote from their latest ad:

PLEX, giving you access to the best ships and skills in the game, while also allowing you to sell your PLEX for millions of ISK on the in-game market which you can then spend on ships, weapons, and equipment!

how much more clear could it be?

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This is not entirely how it works. Less money in economy= it has more buying power. Sort of like deflation.
And economists fear deflation more than regular 1-3% inflation…

CCP is implementing drastic changes en masse without waiting for results of previous “tweaks”… we recently had a severe mining nerf, now a double-punch to ratting… (all of this following 3 rorq and carrier nerfs, which apparently wasn’t enough). And there is a war going on that also influences both things. Prices and supply is going haywire.

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Wow, it’s almost like you don’t know how null sec works.

1 hint: diplomatic relations.

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If some random blues are entering your system and ratting away to the point of trashing your DBS percentage, then I guess your diplomacy guy sucks.

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blue or not blue, the question is, how can you take care of them, when you are a US guy and at the time they come you are sleeping or working?

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Have more people in other TZs in your corp/alliance manage that while your US members are busy?

Do you really think a corp of a few guys is supposed to hold and mantain a whole null sec system by themselves?

It’s certainly possible with enough hard work, but if not done properly, it leads to issues like these.

Burn their farms when they are sleeping?

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well bots are back for real… 10 hours farming with 20 accounts+ for a bot no problem it seems at 30% modifier. and you can report em over and over again CCP dont cares…

Hmm, that’s something at the very least.

If they used to get 1M bounties before, now that is reduced to 300k isk, and with the ESS taking 20% to the reserve bank, it goes down to 240k if they also get the isk back from the main bank, and 180k if not.

Whoever is running these bots is shooting their own foot, as their 20 accounts are making only the worth of 5 accounts ratting in a system with a proper modifier.

na, they are not back. now you can just easier spot them

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Hello everyone,

After the recent update that benefitted once more the defenders of ESS’s (+1,5 min on steal timer & -1h on main bank payout timer) I think it is necessary to give something to the attackers as well.

I would recommend to flag pilots with a 10 min timer after using a JB or Titan bridge, in which they can’t activate the acceleration gate of the ESS.
It happens that you get into a nearly empty system, and after starting the timer the local explodes and a fleet of Nightmares and Scimitars get bridged in form somewhere and you have no chance to get out in time.
I believe that is not the kind of “content” that the changes of the ESS were meant to generate, right?

Cheers

That’s not how balancing works, lmao

lmao are you serious?

If the defenders are willing to commit that many players to defending the site, they should be able to protect their stuff. You shouldn’t be able to steal from dedicated defenders who actively have a squad on standby, sitting next to a Titan, ready to cyno and respond instantly to ESS thieves.

Why? It’s all subcaps. That’s better than what null was notorious in doing for years before–dropping a half dozen caps.

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did you ever steal from a ESS in a frigate? or even steal from a ESS?

ESS was fun at the start but:

MWD Meta: Skill matters.
AB Meta: Skill matters a little bit, but more numbers usually win’s.

A lot of people I know have stopped fighting inside the ESS because its very one sided towards the defenders but because it is their money at stake it can’t not be slanted towards defenders heavily.

And so we have found it is much better to just fight on the ess gate with a mwd gang and have 1 ship inside robbing just to get people to undock (usually spamming it on and off is more effective than sitting there trying to rob 15mil unfortunately).

Would be much better if MWD’s where allowed inside.

MWD is just the Kitey, ‘oops, there is an actual response fleet, lets fillament out’ meta and it needs to die. Too many youbute streamers buzzing around in this crap making out like they are 31337 PvP killing a bunch of frigates in an orthrus.

Defenders are setting up on the ESS gate because they can use the full gamut of ships, with interdiction in play it sucks everyone into a.killing spot.

That 15 million ISK isn’t much incentive for either side. The DBS and MESS just work against each other to make the whole system less appealing and impotent at promoting its original goals.

No, it would be better if there was sphere of death that destroyed anything that moved more that 150km from the centre of the ESS to stop Kitey MWD crap that obviously does not want to fight from just being a pest with the notifications until people turn them off.

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Would love to brawl but if you fight a null sec group with a brawler you will be fighting a 1v 15 battle scrammed, webbed and neuted to death, brawling is dead because of the blobbing stop the blobbing and we will stop kiting.