It might be fun for a while until it gets boring. I’m not being paid to take care of a problem I didn’t create. If I chose to pay a company for the enjoyment of a game I sure as hell won’t be taking out their trash.
Honestly I think you have it all backwards in every part of your post I reply to.
What in the holy ■■■■!
Your first part insinuates complicity and is followed up but a rational supported by the reason for complicity.
Next you say players should step up. Does that mean if you refuse to communicate and that refusal gets your ships destroyed you won’t mind? Because I’d like to think you aren’t saying that,while being personally excluded.
Transferring the responsibility. Really?
If the quote from you in my post is even close to real,what will a report do? Let the scales be balanced by a priority that is based on business rather than what is right?
So I ask you. Am I speaking to a person that knows the difference or are you so held tight to this game you would drown with it while smiling?
Actually by your posting,I already know the answer.
Not sure if you have a brain injury or just a problem with the English language.
Does that mean if you refuse to communicate and that refusal gets your ships destroyed you won’t mind?
You keep referring to something that will never EVER be a part of Eve. CCP isn’t going to allow “player / employees” to fly around New Eden in completely invulnerable ships.
Think of it this way - CCP employs 10 people to go and try to find and identify botters, gives them totally invulnerable, invisible (to local) ships to fly around New Eden gathering intel - On anyone they choose and passing it on to whoever they choose.
Forget hunting bots, I’m looking for Supers and Rorquals to kill.
I’m talking about actual players hunting down and killing bots - Not some fantasy thing you dreamt up that will never happen.
What do you know the difference between?
I know players have the ability and tools to hunt down and kill botters - I know CCP will never allow completely invulnerable players/ships to freely roam around New Eden.
I’m good, I know my suggestion is realistic and only needs players to get the ball rolling.
If the quote from you in my post is even close to real,what will a report do?
Another nice little sentence suggesting you have no knowledge of how the game actually works.
Select player, show info, go to drop down menu, select REPORT BOT - A message is sent to the security team who will then look into the named player. Unfortunately due to human nature the security team receive a lot of false reports (I don’t like this guy so I’ll report him as a bot) but the security team do investigate reports and many have led to bans - We just don’t get any feedback on reports we send so if you see the guy you reported still doing his thing it can become discouraging.
And yes, I’ll stick around Eve to the bitter end - I love the game and the community that goes along with it…
I’m in my eleventh year of Eve and have no plans on leaving any time soon…
NB; This is my last response to you - My only suggestion for you, Go learn something about the game, talk to people who know more about the game than you think you do.
The problem with this kind of system is as always, that they are very intrusive and I really don’t want a game to basically scan my whole computer as this is nothing any software should be doing.
Also this just does not work, because it is relatively simple to jail an application to prevent such access and the botters will be the first to implement this. So what you will end up with is that you have some new intrusive garbage malware-like addition in the client which only affects honest players, good job!
I have no idea, and my guess is CCP won’t tell us because that would be giving bot programmers useful information. As I noted here, giving out too much information makes it easier for people to game the system.
You advocated doing nothing, because it would cause bots to adapt.
Your other input has been merely throwing peanuts from the gallery.
Its always been typical of you, when you want to stonewall any and all change, which I suppose has always been your purpose here on these boards. I’m familiar with your methods over the years. This just happened to be a new low as you also falsely attribute the options in the list to me.
Prove me wrong. Put your money where your mouth is.
State clearly and concisely, what you think CCP should do to address the bot issue in EVE.
Inb4: “No, I wont, because bots will then know it and adapt hurdhur”.
Inb4: “I dont have a single silver bullet”
Inb4: All manner of other excuses that in your mind exempt you from actually thinking about the issue and contributing.
Prove me wrong. Put your money where your mouth is.
State clearly and concisely, what you think CCP should do to address the bot issue in EVE.
Inb4: “No, I wont, because bots will then know it and adapt hurdhur”.
Inb4: “I dont have a single silver bullet”
Inb4: All manner of other excuses that in your mind exempt you from actually thinking about the issue and contributing.
That is the best you got…then you got nothing. As I noted, it is what you read into my posts, not what I actually wrote. This is your problem not mine.
I am confident CCP has a good method to detect bots. If we look at how eve works; players log on to a type of terminal services session and get remote viewing and control of an instance of Eve running on CCP’s servers.
With this in mind we know that CCP’s servers receive data such as authentication data and mouse and keyboard data. So mouse and keystroke analysis must be part of what they use to identify a bot. Perhaps there is a facility where security staff can view the session from the users point of view?
Structured querying of a database will forever be a powerful tool within any business, used correctly security staff should be able to identify when a player does something which a human wouldn’t do.
As for what CCP should do…honest answer? I don’t know. I don’t have nearly enough information to formulate a serious reply. Neither do you. Lets recapitulate on what we have:
A dumb bot that CCP apparently missed.
Some RMT alts in Jita.
That’s it.
From these few tiny pieces of chicken you have built up not just a chicken, but an entire flock of chickens. You have postulated “solutions” without even any idea if they’d work or their impact on non-botting players.
You ran off for dozens of posts about how awesome Gevlon Goblin was, and yet it turns out the guy is a completely blinkered moron who trusts a t-statistic more than he trusts his own eyes.
What should CCP do? I don’t know. Would increasing the staff for hunting bots be a good idea? Sure, probably. Having harsher penalties on those who bot? Okay, sure.
Beyond that it is all just a bunch of stupid forum masturbation.