That boat sailed a long time ago it’s all about now, now, now with this generation. Smartphones, internet, social media have all contributed to this mindset.
Back in your day if you wanted something from the shop I bet you had to walk or ride a bike nowadays they use an app and have it delivered to them.
This is the issue, players want everything yesterday and EVE is not that type of game… At least it wasn’t for the first 10 years I played then CCP changed it to where it could start becoming to be (skill injectors)
Those people existed back then as well, but since PC gaming got easier they are now here as well. I know a lot of idiots from “back in the day”, but there was no chance they could figure out how to download and run a video game.
Aye, we would be chuffed back in the day to get home after 17 hours down at mill with nowt to do but play Eve in an absolute hellscape of terribleness.
it used to be a big scary place before cynos existed.
pirates were everywhere, loads of chokepoints had gate camps of pirate corps.
people would roam more often looking for kills in nulsec.
the good systems were at one time 10 jumps from the nearest npc station so people always had to travel, fleets needed to escort industrials to empire space.
then came capital ships and the ability to jump between nul and empire in a heart beat ith almost 0 risk
POS and station building killing the need for alliance members to travel to the good npcing systems or good mining spots.
people no longer had to risk moving assets, people didn’t need to fly back and fourth to empire at all anymore.
nulsec became a haven for carebears instead of the wild west full of hardcore pvpers who got mocked if they had mining skills.
all the logistics that make pvp possible are pretty much long gone from eve.
small corps or like 20 guys used to be able to put up a pretty good fight roaming alliance space, now everyone just blobs in a few major krabbing spots
Eve is a game about player interaction, but when your constantly interacting with griefers/gankers your game is gonna fold and folding it is. Slowly but folding nevertheless.
then move to nulsec it’s safer than high sec these days, you can mine and watch netflix with less risk than if you did the same thing in a 1.0.
eve went full reversal.
nulsec doesn’t toughen people up to loss these days it does the opposite, your no longer accepting the fact that doing almost anything in nulsec is a big risk, your accepting that you will be safe watchlng local chat.
in empire you don’t see local change and know if the guy is a suicide ganker or not.
It’s no surprise new players don’t stick around with the amount of greifers and gankers in high sec who only do it for fun and newbie tears.
if eve was like the old days which it never can be again, then these highsec greifers would have been on a gate camp somewhere on the way to nulsec or roaming in nulsec looking for the people travelling between systems leaving empire space fairly safe for the new players to learn the game.
some new player loses a mining ship, in the scheme of things it’s a small loss, but to them if they can’t afford to replace it why bother trying again knowing the same thing will just happen…
theres a lmost no where for new players to grow anymore and establish themselves in the game enough to not just quit as soon as they lose a ship they cant afford to replace.
they wasn’t that hardcore - they ignored some aspects of the game and let themselves be deceived by their own ignorance. You will not stop changes and development …
no because I’m not part of a nulsec alliance any more so can’t hold ccp over a barrel when they make a change that effects their safety, even if in the long run it’s not good for the game.
telling people to unsubcribe accounts, don’t log in during blackout, don’t rat in your capital ships until blackout is over
what a joke
Would love to, unfortunately its not my call. I’ll just sit in my lvl 4 mission room waiting for the flashin yellow person to leave while my mobile tractor unit is safely in my cargo hold, this may take a while 30+ mins sometimes while my decked out fleetphoon is happily tanking the whole room. Seriously what is the point, they won’t fire on me because of concord so they just sit and grief and wait for me to deploy my MTU. It’s never gonna happen and they know it so they just sit there and do nothing, just trying to stop me from getting that extra isk bonus for failing to complete the mission on time. Toxic no other word for that behaviour. It happens on a regular basis 4-5 times in one gaming session as a rule, if your in a back water system its less frequent but still happens. At least they cannot take the damsel anymore she deposits right into your cargohold, ccp fixed that.
Because I recently returned to the game a few weeks ago and have to start from the beginning , spending most my time in WH or abyss.
I’m not sure I would want to live in nul again with how most of them reacted over blackout.
on my original chars I was in the first fountain alliance when they were at war with curse??
Then in curse when they were at war with stain.
then in imperium (not the current one) when they were at war with BOB and I think MC
Then in the failure that was curse 2.0
Best way to deal with such kind of grifers is to ignore them. Don’t deploy MTU, clear room and leave. If you want to loot & salvage, BM spot and return in ship with tractors and salvagers (Noctis, or T1 destroyer 'cause nobody with gank it). It is less efficient, but much better then sit and wait doing nothing.
If grifer stole mission cargo you can wait till downtime, site will reset and you can complete it (works with mining missions too). Or just abandon mission and take new one, standing loss is negligible.
Or you can find less crowded system and never see grifers again (well, almost never).
“I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate . All those moments will be lost in time like tears in rain. Time to die.” [Roy Batty]
After more than 13 years in this game its the first time I think the MMORPG EVE Online
is fighting his endgame. Local shut down in 0.0 was not only a technical test to see how is the Impact on the economic structure of the game or the behavior of the in-game-community. It was one of the hardest and most immediate interventions in game mechanics that I can remember. Obviously, this was a sign of how much CCP’s heads are spinning. The heads are spinning because a tendency is very clear and obvious, EVE is not winning enough new customers and is losing more and more players in a rapidly growing gaming market, and they have no idear or plan what to do.
In such a situation, the past overtakes you. All the wrong decisions add up, until at some point you can clearly see what you have to do to get over the mountain. At this point of knowledge, the question arises: is the investment still worth it, yes or no?
If you see the development in gaming since 2003 and compare it with the adjustments CCP try to do over the years, than you can realise how big the gap is. Look at EVEs old fashion graphics, look on the shipmodels and the physics to fly these bumping vehicles. I guess, to go over this mountain you need a big Investment. You’d have to invent EVE the second time.