so it seems, eve for new players is verry … dissapointing so to say. on he otherhand eve is a long term game, people should not expect results without putting work in it.
that is the part i agree with. one has to put in effort to get anything at all in eve.
however, i would like to share my opinion on why eve is terrible for any new player.
first, the newb chat. i did commit the error to ask if its worth to join a corp when new, or not. for those who play eve a long time now the answer is clear, but we ain’t talking about them. so you get a tonn of invites. i rejected them. guess what, i got shot for it. concord is useless, advanced player warps in, takes the one shot one kill, warps out. respect for being mental enough to go after a useless pilot with a useless venture ship. now ain’t that a keeper ? so this is one of the things that makes people quit with ease. the hell needs this ?
but lets … not quit for this reason. venture is cheap and i could not care less about that kinda people.
so then, options. aye, them options you got as a alpha clone to dive into eve universe… you can mine, but you won’t make reasonable amounts. hmmm oh well. mining is okay, it earns a bit of money, you can buy some verry basic stuff but frankly you are at 80% of the max you can reach within an hour or so.
come on. the only ONLY choice you got is the venture. not impressive at all. the ship is impressive for its price, but will not get anyone excited. at least allow some different ships to choose for mining. other ships like haulers do have some choices, some of them being more tanky, others can carry more etc…etc… you get the picture. but alpha miner has no choice than the venture.
okay then you made a few million isk and think its more or less awwwwright, you start to think about trading. as you will most likely be mining in high sec, or have joined a corp that may mine in low sec, but for them you are more of a pain than any gain. you do kinda feeeeel that frustration when any omega account will defacto be better at mining by a large margin, as any other miner ship then the venture is by far superior. and you got no choice remember. okay, so lets try to trade stuff.
ain’t gonna work. you will lack the capital, and you will lack the required ship for a long time. so untill you focus your skills to pilot any hauler, you are stuck at…
yess. the venture. and hauling ore.
wich actualy makes no sense, the venture has a decent ore hold, but its too fragile to get into any reasonable trade route, and absolutely incapable to negotiate low sec on its own. so yeah, you are in corp, why not team up. i tell you why. your venture will only hold back others, and there is nothing to gain from that. so again, you are kinda like a useless 5th wheel.
okay, then go for station trading. weeeeeeeeeellll ain’t gona work as without training the required skills the tax and market fees will eat your profit. you can train those, but it will take a long time and till then you are unable to do anything.
pvp is allso naturally out of order. you might eighter be a punchbag for a few secunds, or… you may start training skills for bigger ships wtich you will not be able to afford to buy, and not be able to afford to loose. even if you grinded up the isk, you still need months of training to be at least not in the way of others in the corp.
so basicly if someone wants to play eve, the best advice is to tell them to not even undock or do anything for at least a half year, just log in everyday and set something in the skill training cue. it literally makes no sense to do otherwise. at least if you want to avoid suffering.
you might buy omega, but then you still got the same limitation, but thistime from lacking skills.
and after a few weeks, new players simply quit. in war time you are absolutely useless, and you can not mine. if you mine within a corp fleet, you just hold back others. and even then you will not make reasonable isk that could make it worthy to play at all.
so can this be solved ?
aye it can be solved. new players need more options than the venture, and there has to be some graduality and upgrades and re.blanaced skill training to get people involved. those who are new should have at least a few roles they could fill, and do something usefull for the corp you join.
even if its marketed as free to play, that can not be any further from the truth. super epxperienced players might find ways to have fun in an alpha account, but the topic is new players. and for them, eve simply offers nothing but a simple chat function.
needs at least 2 more basic industrial ship types. and needs some ships that can be fitted in a way that can benefit a corp.
i’m not a cry baby, i like the guys in the corp. but why is it good for ccp that i can not find any position to fill within any corp, that can benefit that corp in some meaningfull way.