Eve needs an UI-facelift?

Can you provide highly specific details as to what could change, please?

Fully customizablee UI, kinda like wow had/have?

hp & cast bars, like in wow, do not exist in EVE…?
so i dont see a problem, giving the eve-player an option to download and install ui mods that let you rezize tooltip windows & chats.

WoW is a very different kind of game than EVE.

I’m agnostic on tooltip windows, but you can already resize the chats, both the windows and the font size.

The screenshot you posted above is indeed a hot mess, but it seems to me that you could simply arrange your various windows better. You know you can also double-click on a window’s menu bar to make it collapse out of the way, too, right?

Here’s my UI arrangement:
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I don’t know how any of you manage with a single monitor. I think I would actually cry if u took away one of mine.

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I don’t have room for a second monitor rn, but getting a 2-monitor setup going is on my short list.

Makes a massive difference. Setting up each of my alts the same way was a pain tho, screenshots help.

This was interesting…

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:facepalm:

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I played EvE on a laptop for years…still do on occasion…yeah, gets a bit crowded. Spoiled now with bigger monitor, but mobility of laptop is appealing. Still a single monitor, though.

I dont understand? do you want me to list all things that are in a fully customizable UI? :confused:

Its quite clear?
i want a fully customizable UI.
so that others may make ui-mods plugins for me to choose from - what suits my needs. as others may choose diffrent ui layout to suit theirs.
… Just like how WoW handles ui.

If so my ui choice would entail:
movement of the hud freefloat style instead of just “up or down”.
the windows would not have a “fixed minimum ratio/size” (with alot of deadspace inbetween)
my Target list would be atleast 200% of what it is now and all the rest would maybe be 75% of what it is now.
My “target list” would be 100% solid - same goes for overview tab.

This is just on top of my mind… How would you modify your ui for your needs?

i play on a 32" (sweeeet!)… this is the size of 1 out of 4 windows.
and everytime i change # windows, i hafto rearange everything…

i know, but when resize the windows, everything changes, and then the changes i made dont “fit”… it gets old real quick to try to make ui look nice, with current ui-options.

What im trying to say is
To determine if a product is “good” or “bad” one simple question can be:
Does the product adapt to the customer or does the customer adapt to the product?

I am adapting to the product, multiple times per day, and its a pain…
and tbh, im sorry!.. but i dont agree with people that say that EVE is a beautiful game…

Hmmm, I can immediately think of quite a few instances where this isn’t the case.

No need to apologize for having an opinion.
One thing that I imagine would make a transition to a fully customizable UI is the fact that in contrast to WoW’s UI, EVE’s UI was not designed this way from the beginning. I am no programmer but I’d think that opening up the game to allow add-ons to modify the EVE UI, after 17 years as is, would be asking for trouble. I am happy to be corrected on this matter, of course.

While it can’t exactly replace the entire UI, this is the entire point of my project EveVision.

It’s a EULA-legal way to extend the EVE Online UI. It’s only a little over a month old and is currently mostly a way to use existing third party tools ingame, but I’m already working on the real goal - a plugin system for others to develop beautiful EVE-themed UI components just like in WoW that can be used without fear of it infecting your computer or sending off your character’s data somewhere. All you have to know is HTML, CSS, and TypeScript. Someone already reimplemented the original Jukebox themselves within a week of EveVision’s release, and now it’s part of EveVision.

CCP Aurora has stated on the forums that it is currently okay to use (note this isn’t a final approval, we’re still working through whether future features are OK).

Here’s the forum thread

And the separate FAQ

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I think they should just make the UI moddable like other games and let the community figure out how to make it better.

Edit: Looks like EveVision is the answer. About damn time.

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Yes, you are alone. The EVE UI is fine.

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FTFY, some parts of the Eve community are well known for exploiting any edge that CCP inadvertently allows.

An example would be the Bacon app that exploited the fact that you could poll the logserver to get real time updates on who was in a system, and then compared those updates to a standing list in order to produce different alerts depending on standings.

You already (mostly) can. It is idiocy like this that makes me lash out in these forums. It is fools like you coming here bleating about all the things that are wrong in the game and present their awesome solutions whithout checking first if it is already possible. ■■■■ off!.

Want to play wow? ■■■■ off from my EvE and play wow.

You are the problem

Wow, you dont know how to arrange your UI at all. Mine is a lot more tidy.

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Indeed, you can get a pretty good workflow if you set it up right.

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In EvE I can rearrange windows as I need. Can’t do that so easily in WoW without those addons.

you want custom UI?

you know eve is about 6 codes about to be 7 codes sewn together in a giant blob of code that the devs dont even know wtf is what.

no new people learned the existing code before all the old people left and just starting adding their own new gen coding, those people up and left and new people added yet another code.

the POS system is still around all because they cant figure out how to delete it without breaking eve.

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you have :red_circle: in neocom now :)))