Eve - New generation of games ( that we are expecting )

I can not say that I quite understand what you are trying to tell us, except “no this will only benefit the space rich and the large empries…”

Let’s try to consider how would new player get fast profit teached by youtube tutorial.

If I would be a new player and wanned to make fast and easy profit with low risk strategy then first I would use free rookie ship and go to factional war systems with maybe 2 salvagers. My intention would be to try to collect/steal some loot or even salvage wrecks for factional equipment. At the same time I would become shoting target for PVP players who live in those areas. Anyway this is very easy way to make first 500mil.

Another low risk earning strategy is that I could ride in POD and expect someone to shoot me so I can get a killright which I can make available to everyone (in HS) for let’s say 30mil. There is proved 25-28% success rate.

Next low risk strategy, If I would have 500mil, I could trade market activly by putting buy/sell market
orders. Those can bring 100% ROI in one or two weeks. With larger sum ROI becomes smaller but profit is raising.

After some time I can train my mining skills and join some mining corp in null sec and make some profit there.

Same as mining, I can train some skills and at the begining start to play missions or/and resolve some battle sites. ( ratting )

Beside low risk strategies there are strategies which can be played in war faction areas as millita. Men who seeks for profit will chose side according to the profitable Tier success rate. At the moment it is Galente. I believe that profit seeker will have millita charaters in oposite war parts, like Caldari. He will play only one at a time. He will play for the side which will pay better at a certain moment.

There is exploration of data and relic sites, than WH, and there are also other strategies with which you are familliar already and I said that we shell look only the ones that new player can use at very begining by deploying low risk strategy which means "die a lot for free/cheap to get chance for high profit ".

I just wanned to say that those are the facts that eve is experiencing right now especially by releasing ALFA state of characters. Alfa player can not deal with moon mining or setting up a citadel with it’s own taxes, etc.

As you can see, I do not disagree with you completely but I can not say that only richest sector will have all the benefits.

What do you think?

It has just come to my mind, old people also have started to play all kind of games even war games. Maybe they would like to increase their monthly retirement and enjoy while they can.

We always encourge people to chose their career path according to what they like to do in life.
If we ask kids a question, what would you like to do in your life for a living, what do you like doing? Some of them will answer, I like to play games and that is what I would like to do in the future. ( Gamer )

Then we think in ourselfs, ouh they wish to become game davelopers or designers. So we think that they should start studying something in those directions. But if they try that, they mostly fail becasue we didn’t realize what they have been teling us. We was thinkg inside-box instead of outside-box. Which would be like this: "Acording to present condition, there is no option where you would be able to play game and make a living and that means that in near future ( 100years ) we can not expect that to become reality. "

Is that realy a truth?

We also should understand that game-maker and game-player are two diferent states of mind.
If Game-maker tries to play a game, he will start to understand all game statistics and mechaninc and for that reason game will not be so much fun to him instead he would feel like he is testing certain game processes.

Game player doesn’t see or feel or even understand game statistics fully or game mechanics and he takes it as real. Therefore he enjoj it, because of the emotions involved. ( Same like in casino games. )

Conclusion:
If you do what you like, then time is passing very quickly becasue you enjoj it.
There is no way that you will hate it. For example, you can work to much and get tired same as you can overplay some game and get exhausted. After you get enough rest you will return to what you like to do and if that was certain job then you will return to that job or to game that you like to play.

Few years ago while I had different eve account which I gave to the first person on chat who said I will take it without asking anything in return becasue I have decided to quit eve with everyone else I was hanging around at that time, one of my friends was in big dilema. He needed to get married and his parents couldn’t afford to pay for a wedding celebration. In the end he has decided to quit playing eve and sold his 3 charaters to pay for his weding celebration.
For characeters he has get something like this on black market: 560eur + 380eur + 160eur = 1100eur

LOL, if CCP would know anything about it back then I believe that eve commercial would be all around wedding magazines and portals with my friend wedding story.

But we should be realistic and understand that gamers and ex gamers will not talk here (publicly) about it because it is not in their best interest.

professional photographer checking in, can confirm.

So does anyone have the hot-line number of the IRS laying around? I have heard a rumor they don’t like tax evasion.

Oh nevermind, found it.

Nobody is forcing anyone to play game for profit all day.
You can play game as you like and in the end sell your character/s like in the wedding story from one of my prevois posts.

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I don’t see this as contribution to this brain storming but I can understand that many of you didn’t realy read or understood the rules that this forum has in written.

If you are not contributing then you have nothing to write about not just in this thread but on this entire forum.
As I said previously, only becasue of those rules I have decided to write about “idea” on this forum.

(Many humans doesn’t know how to participate brainstorming and because of that they have their pant’s down and just waiting to ■■■■ on someone idea. I/We like to consider such participiatns as shiters. Therefore carefully chose how you will present your idea or upgrade original/previous thought.)

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Otherwise gameowner must do anything possible to eliminate even possibility of such a transfers exists.
When the game mix with real money it looses success.

yeah should enforce a tax on all corps

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Finally future has come as we have expected.

Never mind this topic, I have find out that there is already a game that has allowed and legalized trading game assets and characters for real money and gamer can easily make a profit without any concerns.
Payment processor is paypal ( for funding and withdraw )

I will not anunce game name becasue of two reasons:

  • It wouldn’t be proper to promote another game on eve foum
  • all of you are against this type of game anyway

But soon everybody will find it’s name becasue it will become very popular.

Please don’t bother asking me a questions about it becasue I will not answer it.

Mission completed!

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