So are we on Linux.
Sad to say, but dev less care about linux than Macs ;p
MacOS is based on BSD and other open source stuff
Just stopping by to show my support in a native Mac client!
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But it have more āmarket shareā than ādesktopā linux will ever have. thatās why you can see much more devās support for it. im not say about eve devs, but all gaming devs.
and donāt forget - bsd is unix, not linux
@CCP_Caffeine Can you share anything on what kind of performance we can expect with this native client? What are you seeing with the client in development at this time?
Since I work on a Mac, I took my PC apart and never took it out of storage after moving a couple months ago. Now Iām keeping my setup Mac-only, so Iām really, truly hoping to see a great performance with EVE Online client, esp. on Apple Silicon Macs. (Lack of good gaming rig and the current Wine client rigged with myriads of issues are severely affecting my EVE playtime lately.)
Not yet - but itās not because Iām trying to avoid the issue. Weāre simply at the development phase, with plenty of work for us to tackle. Any performance measurements I give now could change based on development work. Iām sure you can understand that I donāt want to give any figures that are not reflective of what the final product will be.
Suffice to say, we want the performance to be the best it can be and itās something which is being monitored closely.
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Iām drooling more each day in anticipation, and also to test and bug test, like everyone else!
Iāve currently got the CMD+TAB between characters issue of the disappearing ship and cloak timer and inability to warp or do anything etc. Donāt know if this is a Mac bug that doesnāt occur on Windows, I donāt see many people complaining about it.
Hey dear CCP Team,
any new Information about native Client
or need Closed Beta Testers?
so pm me for it
i have iMac 2020 Edition
thx
Mario
You Cmd-Tab into a different client and then things are wonky until you press & release Cmd once? Yes, that happens here, tooā¦ hitting Cmd once after every client switch is something Iāll probably do for a long time even if the native client shouldnāt have that problemā¦ 
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Happens to be all the time! It looks an extra key over the mouse actions, very annoying so that will at least be solved on a native version
Indeed Iāve found that frustrating for a couple of years now however my issue is if I cmd tab to an another character, while the first character is jumping gate (or in warp and about to jump on contact), when I cmd tab back to him, heās in the next system but frozen/partially disconnected, with an overview of the previous system. Cant warp to anything, cant select anything, cant move and ship is invisible on grid. No cloak timer. Only solution Iāve found is to log out and back in. Even safe log doesnāt work.
Some of the input issues are due to OS shortcut clashes, which then cause issues with Wine. This means it has difficulty in realising the true status of a key (sometimes the āstuckā issue being reported).
Other issues are just due to the OS / Wine / Game layers that get crossed - if any of them has an issue, it gives a poor experience. Iāve noticed this in particular when the system is under heavy load.
Weāve been doing a bit of a dive into input the last few days, including rewriting some core bits of it (like default shortcuts).
When we have a public test, Iāll be keen to hear comments about input / shortcuts, as I know there has been weirdness with the Wine client.
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Try moving the window and see if it comes back to life. Reported this bug a long time ago.
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Actually, the problem happens when switching out of the client rather than when switching in, but you only notice it when activating the client again after having previously switched out using Cmd-Tab.
When switching out, the client registers the key down event, but it doesnāt get the key up event that happens when the Cmd key is released after having switched out. When you come back to that client, it thinks the Cmd key is still pressed and doesnāt change that state until you press it again so it gets the key up event.
Thatās why the problem seems to happen most of the times, but not always, because it only happens when you return to a client you had previously switched out of using Cmd-Tab. It doesnāt happen when you Cmd-Tab to a client for the first time, nor when you switch back to a client you had previously switched out of by other means (i.e. by clicking another window).
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@CCP_Caffeine any updates when beta testing would be available? Itās almost end of Q1 
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Ahhh, I knew someone would remind me in here 
Iāll be upfront with everyone: Weāre not going to get the public test out this month, even though that was our original intention. We had some stability issues that would have limited the purpose of the test (as well as giving a bad experience). These are pretty much resolved now.
I have estimations for a new date which I hope to share with everyone soonā¢ in the form of a devblog.
When it comes to the public test, we need to ensure we get as much valuable data from it as possible (performance measurements, crash reports, etc.). While I know a delay is annoying, it simply allows us to build a better client as a result.
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Remind you? Iāve bought two MBA M1s and a Mini M1 in the hope of rejoining the game with my wife. Ā£2800 so far, mainly to play Eve. Soonā¢ canāt come Soonā¢ enough
When you guys get the beta of the web version in your area it works ok. Not a full blown native app, but it lets me pve and light pvp to get my fix. Currently it forgets my settings every time I log out and no way am I trying dual clients with it, but it gives me 60 fps consistently.
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If you really want to play EVE right now on those you can try using CrossOver. It works fairly well for me, it does crash occasionally.