I’m not having the slightest bit of confusion other than in your endless gaslighting.
Yes, the game should record all PvP kills publicly. But if that is an ‘ideal world’ then at the very least, all participants to a kill should get a killmail.
Every blog or article ive ever read that has to do with wars etc. Never links to zkill. Because either the subject doesn’t care or the writers dont care to link them because outsiders won’t know what they are looking at.
What is this obsession with blogs ? How many Eve players have or even desire or can afford their own personal blogs ? And its not like most of the blogs I have seen are not heavily biased or slanted in some way…as one would expect. One should not have to rely on a blog to do what the game should be doing.
What would be the point of playing a PvP game where one spent years skilling up to kill stuff…only for the game to have zero record of one having ever done so. One might as well be Sisyphus forever rolling a stone up a hill for no reason whatever, and paying $15 a month for the sheer privilege.
EVE is the only game with granular kill records. All other games don’t keep individual kill records, and at best have generalized stats like an overall K/D ratio.
If you’re good, people will know who you are, and you don’t need a public record for this.
Also, the kill board is a privilege, not a right. It’s a third-party charity service. If Squizz decides to, he can take it down tomorrow, and your precious record will be gone. It’s already happened before. We initially had two primary kill boards called battleclinic and griefwatch. When those died off, a lot of records were lost. These are records that can’t be recovered because the owning parties are no longer playing the game, so they can’t feed the kill mails into the system anymore. A character I have has like a thousand or two entries that are gone forever because they were from before 2007.
All the more reason why it should all be part of Eve itself. I mean, this isn’t some ‘icing on the cake’ type of thing. What could be more fundamental to a PvP game than a record of one’s kills ?
It’s crazier even than that…as the game happily records all one’s losses, even PvE ones. So one can have the loony situation of having 12 ship losses all recorded, even the ones during the NPE, but because not one of one’s 200 kills got the ‘final shot’ one can have zero ‘kills’ recorded. That is just plain nuts and someone needs to say so.
What’s to enjoy if there’s no record of it ? Or am I supposed to ‘enjoy’ that the game happily records even PvE losses in the NPE…oh yes…no problems with that…yet one could take part in 500 fleets and not have a single record of it. Bah. No…that is not my definition of ‘enjoyment’.
If there were no kill mails, I’d still play exactly the way I already do. I think most, if not all of the proficient, recognized PvPers in the game would. Kill records are a nice extra, but not a baseline requirement for having fun and enjoying EVE for what it is. We fight for the kills, not for the mails. Maybe it’s something you simply can’t understand at this point in time.
But you are primarily a solo player which means almost by definition you get the kill records. And so is Io Koval. So I see a pattern here…solo players don’t have a problem in the first place and thus simply don’t care that fleet players might miss out on kill records.
Oh, and the fact that you are primarily a solo player is ironically something that I only know in the first place…by looking at Killboard. Plenty of irony in this thread.
I’m confused about how being a solo player ties with my perspectives that kill records are unnecessary and that the game would be fundamentally better without them. I never said that solo players should receive PvP records, while group players shouldn’t.
Because you don’t need killboard at all. You can go to Interactions and Combat Log and see all your Kills displayed in-game. I, on the other hand, have one character where I go there and it shows 10 ‘Losses’…even the ‘Air Civilian Astero’ from the NPE…lol…yet it shows ZERO in ‘Kills’ because despite being on 178 kills not a single one was a final shot.
And this lop-sided nonsense is supposed to enthuse me to the game ?
You guys don’t understand, Altara is still padding her killboard, until she gets 10 trillion it’s like there’s nothing there at all - so to get robbed of a hard earned zkill that someone else killed for you, that’s really frustrating cuz it means you have to wait until someone spoonfeeds you another structure (and it probably won’t be close to 100b) so then you add up all the hours you are spending to pad your zkill, and you start to wonder if it would be easier to just shoot your own alts.
