But you cannot opt out if you do have a structure?
No, you can’t opt-out if you own a structure in space. Your structure needs to be vulnerable to attack somehow. But you can use an alternate corp to deploy the structure, and then share access with your ‘main’ corp. Then you have access to a structure, and are immune from wars being declared on you.
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Unless you’re part of a mutual war, enlisted in FW, part of an alliance in which a different corp in the alliance has a POS, or engage in warfare in LS/NS.
No. If you have a strcture, you are war elligible.
Lots of Corps/Alliances in higsec now have their structures owned by a shell Corp and all of the members are not war elligible.
That way they still have access to the structures, but are totally safe from wars themselves.
Theres a game breaking flaw in there somewhere. I can feel it…I just dont know in whose favor. Either wars are useless now.
Or high sec is meaningless.
Unless I’m missing something. Because you can do a lot of damage to noob carebares even those without structures for no penalty other than what that noob corp can inflict back on you.
That’s an interesting solution. But why does it matter? Just declare war on their shell?
Yeah, but if that is out of the way and doesn’t make noise anywhere, the structures will likely never be at risk even if a war is declared, and if the membership is only 1 character who never logs on, there’s not much content for a wardec group that doesn’t already know where the structures are and wants to attack them.
I don’t see how. Don’t own a structure = perfectly safe from wars. Noob carebears and their corps are totally immune to any impact of wars unless they explicitly opt-in and deploy a structure in space.
Bask in the glory of modern Eve! Safety and wealth for everyone! Conflict is largely consensual now! Personally, I can’t wait for the player counts to rocket up into the stratosphere as promised!
They are still perfectly safe from your war. The structure isn’t, but there has to be some way to constest or fight over them. If the carebears want to fight, they can, or they can abandoned the structure. Regardless, the ball is completely in the noob carebear’s corp.
Can’t see how you could make highsec any safer or more under the control of the new player carebear corp. Can you?
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That’s where intel comes in, totally not hard to do?
You know your target. You follow them?
High warp speed should allow you to do this?
For what motivation? The traditional wardec groups are motivated by content for their members. That’s mostly shooting ships and citadels close to trade hubs.
They haven’t changed their behaviours much and aren’t really travelling all around following people to find their structures to wardec against.
Still much easier to declare lots of wars and shoot ships that come into the firing line.
Typically the holding corp is one alpha character and the structure is private - you need to hunt for it. Also, killing a Raitaru is a lot of effort for very little reward. Wardeccers like to camp the trade hubs and catch nullsec haulers who didn’t realize they were at war. Most use pilots in NPC corps for hauling but there are always a few who forget. Now if you’re war ineligible it doesn’t matter.
The how is without any COST to declaring war, I should be able to provide all sorts of access to less savory people who otherwise would be excluded from High Sec? So they can do more tactically. That for one…
For two, no ccost means I can still just war dec anyone who is eligible or their toons’. So it sounds like the favor of no cost is heavily in the attacker’s side to just do the intel, and still hit you hard in high sec?
Thanks for answering me a lot. I do have a separate question, I have to scroll up to see if you answerd already.
But, can an alpha “own” a structure? They just can’t anchor them themselves?
No one is excluded from highsec and any freeport citadel already provides docking rights for everyone, irrespective of sec status.
K this is making more sense now, but why not intel and camp their structures? or are the structures not that valuable to their corp ops?
Yes. The CEO can be alpha or omega. No restriction there.
Oh shoot, was that always the case? What’s the point of security status then? I thought it was low status you got shot on site by Concord.
Wars cost 100M ISK and require a 600M ISK structure at risk. How is there no cost?
You can only attack people who have opted in. They want to fight, or at least was to take the added risk of owning a structure for the reward. The new players are all safe tucked into their war-ineligible corps now, safe from all the bad people.
There is no window at all for war-mongers to exploit now. Players can live in war-free corps now and there is nothing the wardeccers can do about it!
K this brings me to the other side of the possible mechanic.
Let’s say attacker A declares war on Defender B.
B calls out to an alliance and adds 100 corps to their alliance.
Attacker A still only has to pay 100 mil? (Or to join an alliance you have to make a war mutual?)
Not quite. Security status affects how freely you can move around in highsec as you’ll start being chased by faction police in 1.0 systems when you reach -2.0 and by -5.0 you will be chased anywhere in highsec by faction police and can be engaged freely by any player anytime.
CONCORD are not faction police, except for a single constellation (Sanctum Constellation).
CONCORD respond to criminal activity, not outlaw status (except for in the Sanctum, where they do chase you if you have low status).