I know. How dare I show disappointment that the company would enforce the rules on me isn’t enforcing the rules across the board? Clearly you think everyone should keep quiet, keep their heads down, and just keep playing like nothing’s wrong.
Game exploits be damned. If people are making money off the game, who are we to judge?
Two fitting comments from the related r/Eve thread:
I read this :
We already knew Loru had screwed up, but we wanted to hand down a minor penalty just to put the matter to rest.
However, faced with the community’s obsessive hysteria, we ended up slapping him with a short seven-day ban just to appease everyone.
It’s true that Loru violated our gifting policy by trading ships for money. However, the RMT rules don’t apply to him, because he’s more useful to us than this subreddit full of schizophrenic and obsessive-compulsive disorder with pixel.
And if you don’t like it, too bad.
FCs inaction on RMT in general, input broadcasting and now this bs is just a bit too much lol
Meanwhile they’ll ask you 20 bucks per month that they’ll invest into some crypto project instead of fixing Eve.
Plexed my accounts with rl money so far - not going to happen anymore.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1vm8ixd/fccp_statement_regarding_loru/
Guy does rmt and gets less of a ban then i did for pissing off the “help center” staff…lol
I never said that. But if you begin putting words into my mouth, I rather not continue this conversation.
I mean cc eh Fenris for the longest time said they would.never sell or give out skillpoints
Lol, i was just about to write about the same. I think they said they would never sell ships in the store. But that doesn’t matter, if you can just buy your way into skillpoints and the ingame currency. You can just buy the ship and skill level then indirectly with all that stuff.
Well you can’t do a pay-to-win because you really can’t win EVE…but also you can just buy your way into everything apart from that. You don’t really need to play the game anymore and can just swipe your credit card instead.
Do your RMT directly with FC. They will gladly sell you anything. They have special sales agents if you need more than 80.000 PLEX at once. You will be handled in a special lounge while you wait for your deal to complete.
FC is just lucky that as @Syzygium writes, i can still “trade lifetime for fun here”. But these asopects certainly have diminished the level of fun and the feeling to achieve something a bit when others just can come around and don’t need to spend skill training time, don’t need to do grinding or make your way into an alliance capable of manufacturing certain ships and can just get the same result you otherwise would need to work on for years with the swipe of a credit card.
He absolutely violated our giveaway policy, though, and he absolutely exchanged spaceships for money. It feels like we’re splitting hairs here, but intentions play a role. -CCP Swift
Intentions have never mattered before.
The law is the law. Get him outta here.
I don’t cheat, trade real money, or break the terms of service. When I heard about this, I wanted to discover what went on first before jumping into this ethical debate. I don’t stream or make money streaming games, I tend to wonder how people, get away making their living, streaming games at all. I do give away free ships, but there is no money changing hands, not even ISK.
If any online game clearly telling players – do not to break the rules – that rule is supposed to protect fairness, safety, and trust in how the whole community is governed. When only one streamer is permitted to break those rules for their event, the system starts to look less like a set of principles and more like selective directions. Even if the event is fun or popular, the ethical concern is that exceptions without transparent standards weakens the meaning of “the rules” for everyone else.
Advocates might argue that enforcement isn’t always about strict uniformity; it can be flexible when there is something for the community. If the streamer’s event brought real community value – visibility, engagement, or a beneficial outcome – then some might claim a targeted exception is ethically justifiable. They may also say that rules can have room for administrator or organizer discretion, and that a sanctioned carve-out is different from covert or exploitative version of RMT.
The strongest ethical rebuttal is about the RMT controversy; Since the streamer profited, then it ends up looking like preferential treatment, not principle – especially if other players couldn’t reasonably expect the same flexibility. Ethically, a one-off “pass” is hardest to defend when it isn’t clearly documented without transparency, the community is left to suspect that influence and money can buy exceptions, which ultimately harms trust even if the event itself was entertaining.
It is my humble opinion, the streamer should have set their event before the CSM and developers, far in advance of the set date. This would give them time to look at any legal entanglements prior to the event itself. However there appears to be blame on FC – as they appear to have mismanaged the aftermath of the event – without placing more harsh sanctions on the streamer. At this point, it is out of the hands of community, and beyond control. Open wounds now must be dressed and trust between the community rebuilt.
Don’t RMT and Mine Safe 
I’m seriously wondering if Loru is an employee of Fenris Creations. They’re doing a pretty impressive job of protecting him and shielding him from responsibility. Also, as far as I know they’ve never publicly asked for the Creator of the Year award back. Which means they fully support his behavior - past and present.
Since he’s no longer in the partner program it would be really interesting to know if he’s on their payroll. If he is on their payroll, it may explain why they have a PR nightmare as (if he is a employee) he’s knowingly breaking the rules while being paid by/working for FC. Which once again, would make this situation even greater than why the CSM was created; devs handing out T2 BPOs to friends.
I am significantly disappointed in FCCP’s fumbling of what should have been a trivially simplistic application of the rules as they were written.
They went on stage and told a crowd that if you sell ships or ingame assets, you get permabanned. They did not say, “If you sell ships or ingame assets, we’ll take a very close look at your intentions and see if we feel like you reeeeeeeally meant to sell ships or ingame assets or if your self-enrichment maybe just happened to be an accidental and entirely forgivable lapse of discretion.”
One of the more hamhanded and entirely un-forced ■■■■ ups I’ve seen out of this team over the years and I’m surprised people aren’t more angry about it than they are already.
Could someone from FC, with the authority to speak on this matter, break down here, how the actions at hand by Loru, do (or do not) break FC`s very own rule for players and content creators of EVE Online, respectively, and how the current penalty handed out to Loru meets up (or doesn’t) with this and with the explanations given by the FC Security Team at Fanfest 2026 (the stream was just recently put by FC up on their YouTube channel) on how FC handles RMT situations, please?
I am really at a loss on how this all matches up, how this - from the outside - seems to substantially disrespect every player as well as content creator trying to abide by the rules of the game.
There seems to me (and this might or might not be the case) a massive disconnect, with FC undermining their own credibility in the wake of it and all this ending up - on top of all else - in a PR disaster of epic scale.
I would really like to understand this whole situation better.
they have released a statement.. albeit a shitty one.
Here is the original:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1vkvak5/comment/p2xpl3y/
I saw that, I just think it doesn’t address my points from above or provides actual clarity on the rule interpretation and statements by the official FC Security Team.
So you followed the indirect link and not the link chain i guess, which is why i posted the original.
The link chain will take you to a discussion and also finally to the rules for content creators.
If you bring people to eve CCP won’t do anything apparently…lol
You might get a ban if people find out and ■■■■■…lol
And CCP will clearly violate their own statements about rmt bans..
Lead GM Carbon
Updated 5 months ago
Real Money Trading (RMT) consists of ISK selling and ISK buying in many various forms. More details and examples can be found in the most recent Team Security blog: Rules and Policies Clarification.
Team Security has discussed ISK buying multiple times, including blog entries, forum conversations and a Fanfest presentation.
**There are no legitimate methods of RMT
**
What are the penalties for ISK selling?
If a player is found to be selling ISK on the side, their accounts will be permanently banned without a chance for appeal. Depending on the severity of the offense we might consider completely blocking access to our system and deny further creation of new accounts. The permanent ban is not up for discussion.
Unless FC decides they retroactively make it semi-legitimate due to their corporate bottom line (the almighty god of any corporate entity).
Did anyone actually thought they have any kind of moral principle and not just pure PR doublespeak?
This is correct, one of the corporations I was in had a player with several billions negative wallet for breaking the rules. Honestly it was probably worse than a permaban because with a negative wallet there is a lot in the game that is impacted.
Similar statement from Zulu in 2011 if I recall. One last year about turning down the frequency of daily login campaign FOMO too.
No, I saw the original link chain as well; however, also with that one, I don’t think it addresses the questions raised or apparent discrepancies in the first place, in particular - though not only - also not with having the other link you provided, for the EVE Online Content Creation Terms of Use, in mind.