February 2020 Release - General Feedback

For some reason i dont expect ccp put those re-distributed ores anywhere but in high-sec

Look CCP.
I want to build a dreadnaught. And PvP on it. I want to try different fits and tactics. I worked a lot for this. I spend years in this game. Now, you, decided that i have no right to do that. I will be unable to build it, because of redicoulous ammount of available ore.
I will be unable to buy it, because it will have an huge cost, and i have very limited available time to play this… game.
Why the hel you doing this?

Oh, and to those who post idiocy in style “null sec miners will be unable to do a bil per minute, what a shame! LoL”. Prepare to have a fun in the game with 5000 online and elite PvP in T1 cruisers.

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I’m sorry to disappoint you, but this patch is not intended to eradicate botting.

If they woulda intended to do that, they would’ve started with the ratting bots. The filaments clearly discovered that when your fleet showed up in random space, half-a-dozen Gilas and Domis, etc. started docking up immediately and you’ve left the system empty handed. As soon as there was a little latency/malfunction in the local chat, blowing up 2-3 ships at sites per system became significantly easier. The ratting bots do nothing, but print ISK. I don’t wanna protect the miner bots either, but at least they lower the prices, that the ratting bots duck up.

Also I have hard time believing, that a single guy with a Rorq and 4-6 toons in Exhumers cannot overmine just within a few hours of gameplay any number mining bots in Barges that run all day.

This is a bigger punch to the face of real players. Bots will adjust to this new system in no time. But the people who lived off Indy and Mining gonna struggle for a good while. Prices will go even higher, so I also suspect more people will start printing ISK with bots, which can lead to a complete economy crash.

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Instead of fixing known issues like chat problems or ddo crap they decided that to ■■■■ up all industry is a great idea. Sure, why keep the only thing that makes eve different from other games which is player run economy, we lost 20% online over that motherf***g idiotic blackout patch, what now, you want your online that was about 40-45 k a few years ago to be 10k now?

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I know that CCP is unable to eradicate boting.
They have only one perfect trained skill - remove normal players from the game.

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@CCP_Lebowski Well to be fair this thread is titled “February 2020 Release - General Feedback” and the players are giving you direct feedback on this patch (which 99% of the player base absolutely despise) yet you are the one deleting comments? So, what exactly did you expect?

I thought eve was meant to be a sandbox game controlled by the players and not by the dev’s? Well clearly as CCP has proven time and time and time again that this is not the case, far from It.

I’m not a Rorqual miner and never will be (especially after today) but these changes have no logic to them, why don’t you just remove null sec from the game if you hate it so much?

If you thought blackout done severe damage to the APB (which it did, massively) then I think you guy’s are in for a monumental shock.

And one more thing, please fire your UI guy as this new “update” is hideous and infuriating.

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What community dev’s? There are none anymore.

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Gong v2.0

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This is part of a plan (it had better work!) to redistribute ore etc.
You should read the devblog before wishing the developers harm.

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CCP - Thanks for the updates. Ignore most of the f…w…ts above, they don’t understand anything but “my way to play is the only way !!!1”. The bug reports are reasonable but perhaps in the wrong thread ?

Keep up the good work :clap:

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Rorquals made a design flaw obvious. Of course, they were also overpowered.
But adding a resource at basically unlimited abundance is a very bad idea. While I don’t think it would have become this fast so clear without Rorqs. The main design flaw is not the rorquals.

Making Ore a limited (although still very abundand, just annoying like ■■■■ to mine) resource is a great push. Even if Rorqs would have been deleted. Mining fleets would still be the way to go for empire building.

The resources have always been available in unlimited abundance. Only introducing tools that go against the original design concepts just because some scrub in CCP wanted to give everyone supers and titans for pennies turned it into a problem.

And proper mining fleets can be engaged much easier than Rorq swarms. You can bomb them to death, torp them to death, boosh them away or intercept them on the way to a belt.

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The loot ping surely has to be a mistake. I can’t think of a good reason why they would want to irritate those that do that hundreds, if not thousands of times a day. lol

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It is not. It is sound development based on what some random, completely clueless noob told CCP they needed to do so that that noob would know what is going on. That has been CCP’s basis for designs and development for years and always yields amazing well thoughtthrough results.

Yes, that is why it would eventually have become a problem.
Supercap proliferation was a problem even before Goons started their Empire building scheme (ever tried to fly through panfam regions before) So that was definitely not the reason!

Yep, proper mining fleets are much more engagable. So, where is your problem? We just got a push in that direction!

I do not see it.

As innovation manager myself. Nope, this is not “a completely clueless noob” is just pretty good data based iterational development.

It hurts sometimes, but you can’t improve if you don’t upset anyone…

THANK YOU CCP! I’ve spent a ton of money, ISK, time, energy and training on getting pretty good at mining with a couple Rorquals on paid omega accounts. It’s helped me to afford some nice ships with nice modules, afford to participate in fleets, afford to lose some ships in the service of fun, PvP and my corp. Considering that I have high heavy water overhead on 5-minute sieges, which makes sitting on tiny anom rocks a waste of time and investment, I can now go back to just playing with a couple of alt accounts doing other things, and not spending all that time, money and ISK on my paid omega Rorqual accounts. I can now spend less in-game and real-world money on EVE accounts! Happy day!
/s

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pls tell us what exactly we dont understand

The belts just got small enough, to be decently mined in barges and orcas. With the price increas incoming, that is actually going to be worthwhile.

So, I guess you should thank CCP for this;)