You really should make an effort to understand the PLEX system before posting about it.
Best way to get PLEX prices down is to have all of null sec on fire. When you are at war for 18 months at a time buying a couple plexes to keep you in ships is a lot easier.
Instead we have Fozziesoz and Citadels that have everyone entrenched because no one want to chew through 130 astrhause or chase ceptors all day.
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Since youāre not getting into any specifics, itās hard to know what you mean. Share your thoughts?
As far as I know PLEX have to be bought with real money from CCP. Stashes from the past, in which PLEX might have been given out in-game aside. If someone buys PLEX for money from CCP today, I can only see two reasons:
- Buy something from PLEX Store (Multiple Char Training, Skill Extractors, SKINs etc)
- Sell PLEX for ISK (no matter if you sell today or in 3 years)
Buying PLEX for real money just to turn it into game time does not make sense, because a Subscription is cheaper.
Buying PLEX for ISK instead of money and turn that into game time can make sense, but only if you need to spend more time real life working than making the equivalent value in game. That can only account for a most economical use of your time of course. If on the other hand your hourly income in EVE is high enough you might want to buy PLEX with ISK instead of spending real money for alts or even mains. With massive ticks in Null this becomes more prevalent and drives up the PLEX price, which is good for people who buy PLEX with real money to sell it for ISK, but not so good for people who have low hourly income with their activities in EVE but wish to buy PLEX with ISK (as I suppose is the case with OP). In turn at some price such people might find it makes more sense to subscribe directly or stop playing, as their activity is too uneconimical a spending of time or they adapt for higher income activities.
Only CCP knows how many people buy PLEX for real money, but Iām sure the vast amount can easily get paid the equivalent of $/ā¬/whatever per real life working hour for a month of subscriptions, while not everyone can make a guaranteed ISK equivalent of 500 PLEX in an hour of playing EVE. Even if you bring up alts on 2nd/3rd/4th screen afk ratting while you do other stuff, you need to spend time/lose a window for other activities and itās not like most real jobs are 100% work in a paid hour - and if they are, your line of work probably pays far, far, far above the price for a months subscription per hour.
So, people who value their own time highly, will use real life money to buy subscriptions. To make ISK is a entire different story. Iām curious if we donāt have sort of an equilibrium right now with some people driving the PLEX price up due to massive ratting in Null and others push it down by getting a nice amount of ISK in exchange for real life work (mediated through PLEX).
On the topic of PVE for ISK to buy PLEX for game time: the only time-economical reason to do that (excluding all other factors) is if your real life opportunities to make money will pay you less. Chinese Gold Farmers and the likes. Of course it exists and we shouldnāt ignore it. OP didnāt say he comes from such a background/area of the world though. Instead he wrote:
If he thinks the expenses for 30 days game time are too high, he should be adressing monthly subscription cost and not the price of one in-game currency for another. Actually he is saying: āI fail to see why anyone would ever spend so much time ratting per month, to buy 500 PLEX, to activate Omega, to Omega-play a game that takes years to excell in lolā
And he is right for people with low hourly EVE-income. They are better off spending their time with real life work for money and buy a subscription.
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Dude, do you really expect me to read all that crap?
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Nah. One of my hands wasnāt occupied otherwise so I thought writing half a novel would keep the muscles en par with the other.
hahaha good stuff.
Well, since this is my first unemployment-period in 30 yrs, Ill be enjoying it playing free games and hanging out with my favorite trolls here on the thread 
You can say what you will, but Im very good at dragging pointless people into the discourse, and to keep them at it hehe. Behold how they bump my thread continuously! They secretly love me
I love you too guys! Brohugs all around and enjoy your employmentdriven day, you mindless drones.
So your contention is a big war means less time to farm for ISK - so more players will buy PLEX (with $) to sell (for ISK) instead - causing a rise in supply resulting in a drop in PLEX price.
Seems sensible, would love to see some stats to support (or undermine) that if anyoneās got them?
A graph showing PLEX prices & ISK destroyed (as an indicator of hostile activity levels) with major wars & battles annotated along the date line sort of thing, if I wasnāt so lazy I might go dig in (to the records) & make that myself 
but just on the off-chance it already exists out there somewhere, Iād hate to spend time inventing the wheel if someoneās already done it 
If the hypothesis is correct I (think) we can expect PLEX prices to fall in conjunction with rises in ISK destroyed.
@Onictus I think youāre right but EVE can get a little complex with unexpected knock on effects so it would interesting to see if the data (appears) to bear out the hypothesis.
Uhhā¦ youāre about 3-6 months out of date.
Null sec is pretty crazy at the moment. CO2 got Judged. DRF and GTOG are/were blasting the crap out of each other (possibly just ended?) PL/HTP are attacking Providence (possibly just feeling it out before a takeover just before the stations go away). TEST is dropping supers on PL in Providence for kicks. Triumvirate just evicted FCON/Phoenix Federation. The early name for the chaos going on is the āBlue Donut Warā.
Lots of activity in player owned null at the moment.
Funny you should juxtapose those two, because CO2 getting ripped off is actually on the other side of the balance sheet 
that event actually resulted in far less activity (of the explosive variety) than might otherwise happened have happened, not more.
Iām not saying your wrong & there isnāt a lot of activity right now, just pointing out that doesnāt belong on the side of the scales you (appear?) to be putting it not in the context of what heās on about.
ā¦yeah and the goons managed to outcrab the rest of the game collectively.
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Lots of activity, unless you mean the South to the north east COMPLETLEY around the west side of the map.
I said null sec on fire.
Not sure thatās true. Removing a huge sov-holding entity causes disruption and chaos. And in eveā¦ chaos leads to ships blowing up. I saw many predictions that the blue donut war (which was really just getting started at that point) would be ācancelledā with CO2 evaporatingā¦ and instead it intensified.
It was the same when the Band of Brothers Alliance was disbanded due to treachery. They immediately reformedā¦ but the result was that in a few months their replacement alliance (something with a Kā¦ donāt really remember) was replaced by goonswarm and the goonswarms old space became a chaotic mess for a while.
Power vacuums create conflict. The instant disappearance of a 3000 pilot sov holding alliance is a power vacuum.
Give me a comparable period from the past that illustrates what you mean by ānull sec on fireā. Iād say the scenario we have now might be in the top 10 in terms of periods of nullsec conflict in eveās history, with a good chance of escalating whenever the proposed citadel timer changes and switching of stations to citadels happens. Are you looking for something unprecedented in terms of null-sec unrest? Or is there a comparable point in the past youāre thinking of.
I was not so much responding to ānullsec on fireā as this part of your post:
āInstead we have Fozziesoz and Citadels that have everyone entrenched because no one want to chew through 130 astrhause or chase ceptors all day.ā
The entrenchment was true 6 months ago. Itās really not nowā¦ a big chunk of nullsec are actively on the moveā¦ gearing up for what should be a fantastically active āwinter seasonā (traditionally when things seem to get active in null).
All true but itās not the sort of Chaos that can result in the kind of massive (or just very large?) battles we might otherwise have expected.
Intuitively it feels (to me) that the chaos you got from destroying CO2 with a scam canāt be expected to compete (for destructive value) with the battles otherwise expected from their involvement.
Often things do turn out to be counter-intuitive of course, but until I see any reasonable evidence or logical argument to support the counter view I can only go with what my own ālogicā & extrapolation tells me, so for now I still have to disagree 
CO2 is still involvedā¦ or rather a significant chunk of their pilots and resources are. Test/Legacy probably ended up with about 40-45% the CO2 pilots and GoTG got another 40-45%. Both of those are involved in the current conflict. Iām not sure how to quantify what impact CO2 dispanding really had. They were going to fight with Tri apparentlyā¦ but Triumvirate succeeded in the first part of their fight without CO2.
It certainly changed how things would play outā¦ I donāt think it reduced the amount of space explosions though. It may have increased it.
and what exactly are you doing to change this situation ? other than bitching on the forums of course
There is a special place in hell where freeloaders go who leech their āftpā game time off of the addictive personalities of the āwhale.ā Go rot in hell and take your ftp with you.
Wierd. I went away after the same amount of time spent and came back after the gap and I dont seem to have a problem running x# toons and scanning. (Scanning being nearly identical to what it was back then and nuch much easier than ot was before that).
I have no idea why these things are harder for this person than me.
And to be fair, it shows 
Well, if anyone dosnt understand EVE as you marvelous people, it may because they too dont read well 
Because if you bothered read more than the OP, youd find out, that many of us that started out sceptical about EVEs current state, has slowly gotten wiser than when first posting. Which would paint your reactions to it, as both childish and rather malignant.
But I thank you yet again, for your bumping of the thread! Means a lot that this kettle keeps boiling, so the future can be aware of such issues