Well, you can already do that, my biggest ISK sink are currently skill injectors
so you would prefer the option 1 of the 2 options iāve propose āActive skillā itās the same as it currently is , you spend real time to train them and also works offline, with the exception of when you are ONLINE and you are using those skills you get a bonus to the time it takes, so you actually playing the game is rewarding.
Also those are just 2 options off the top of my head thereās many more ways to fix that.
I meanā¦ we have only one life , iām sure EvE Online aināt your only game you play , but itās a āgameā it shouldnt be a chore , it shouldnāt be an obligation , it shouldnāt be a way of life. It should be an entertainment. Ask a vet how long he has played EvE for. I myself have played EvE since ā¦ 2005 i think ? But itās not a game i play for the long run itās impossible. Iād like to get my friends in on this but itās not possible to convince them cause of the time sink it takes, Iām the āoddballā that does it, and thatās alot of yearsā¦ EvE i canāt be active on it for more than a few months at a time and i take years of breaks from it, last time i had played before i resubbed was 8 years agoā¦ Itās not like other mmo that you come back right where you left off , lvl up some 10-50 more levels and right back with the vets that didnāt leave. Itās oh you are right back where you left off , 2 months left on your drones training.
Letās hear yours then 
Impress us with your bright ideas.
Actually I just like the skill system how it is, and it is probably what I liked most when coming from other games: the fact that you are not pushed to play all the time for fear of āmissing outā.
The shortcut already exists if you really want to grind, a small skill injector costs only 135M
Kind of yeah, but it would be in a more reasonable format , spending close to 1 bil for 500klp at bestā¦ yikes. thatās not enough for a rank 5 of x2 multiplier and thatās only if you are under 5m SP the higher SP you have the less you get in return lol. Good on you not caring about the ISK you spend on it , i just hope you not buying the ISK with PLEX you bought with real money. thatās a waste.
The most unfair thing in this news patch is, in my opinion, skill extraction. We will have back our reprocessing SP, but it is not enough. They are changing everything in mining: ships, yields, modules, compression etc. This is huge rework of mining! We should expect some free skill extractors in case we dont like this changes and want to change in game activity to something more profitable. But ofc ccp dont want this, who would be this ābackboneā which lift the rest of this ill economy?
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Whats reasonable for you would be a pittance for others.
May as well just have max skills from the start
Nah, I buy Omega with real money, because it is a game and not a job. What I earn in game goes for injectors. But I only use them for skills that take more than 9 days.
PI gets me a couple every month with almost no effort
if you stop subbing you are missing out. I meanā¦ sometimes life gets hard and you canāt afford a subscription , you have to cutā¦ Or you donāt enjoy the game anymore you have to take a break from it. whatās this iām paying 20$ / month for something iām not touching ? thatās a waste. but then you donāt cause of the fear of āmissing outā =\ The former have less of an impact than the latter, and yet both are mutually equals in that context cause they are gated by the subscription.
Ughā¦ what ? you just quoted a word out of context and proceeded with exageration , nice one.
What Iām talking is āshould I go out and party with friends this evening or stay and grind?ā go out and the game will give you exactly the same progression. Thatās one of the things that I considered a perk of this game over those I came from.
Literally, I started playing EVE because of this
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Eh? You said 1 Bill for 500K SP wasnt reasonable, why are you pretending you dont understand the reply to that?
I personally bought a Rorq a couple of months back in view of using it solo.
I get its command ship but I trained for it because I like using drones in every aspect of eve I can.
I do think it needs a nerf but not to the extent of if being useless for a single account player.
Excavator drones should still be used but maybe reduce the volume they can harvest over a set period to reduce the mining capability.
I do belive that the cost of the ship and the training required should allow for that. It should be able to harvent more than a barge as it uses 5 drones.
If its going to be nerfed into oblivion then why not allow it in high sec to work with other solo players for the better. I know the orca is there but you need a purpose for the Rorq and Iām not seeing it with the compression idea as it will be a chore and have no enjoyment value.
Is there any plans to add the 3rd high slot back to hulks? Or any plans to create larger mining vessels like battleship size that can bring in a bigger yield?
Exhumers just donāt seem to be attractive end game miners. Especially for solo players.
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Sure thatās good i donāt see a problem with that you do you If you want to go party go party. You shouldnāt feel like youāre missing out thoā¦ Thatās terrible and iām not just talking about EvE here , do you have this feeling about everything else ? A movie , a book, a music , a concertā¦ that must be terrible, i sure hope you donāt.
But at least thatās something that newbro would like , newbros are the most actif cause they started the game they want the action , they need a boost to make them train faster , progress further ,catch up to their friends who recruited them , catch up to their youtuber who influenced them into joining eveā¦
Anyway itās not really a debate i wanted to make by giving out those 2 examples. They were simply 2 examples.
Thatās what you said , whereās my whole reply in that ? you just quoted 1 word LOL. and thereās no follow up for me to click on to see what youāre referring to lol !
Sorry, didnt realise you couldnt remember what you wrote.
You quoted one word. iām replying to multiple peopleā¦ hard to keep trackā¦
Iāve read my previous and yours so i can answer correctly now.
It would help newbros cause newbros donāt have an astronomical amount of isks when they start , if youāre loaded in ISKS good for you man, of course skills that are x5 , x8 , x12 multiplier would cost even more ,so even your 800 billions you have might start to shrink down to only a few hundred million after youāre done with them.
They also dont need an astronomical amount of SPs to start if they only have a few Isk.
Skill injectors have diminishing returns base on how many skill points you already have. giving extra extractors so that high skilled toons can reset there skills will be a loss for those toons.
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True they also have access to x1 multiplier skills at first and x2 later. Iām sure CCP could come up with some numbers.
Again was just an idea i was throwing out. Like i said in my first postā¦
Food for thoughts.
I donāt have other ideas because the current system is better than everything else for the reasons laid out above.
I have been playing without interruption since 2011. Considering how much time and effort you inevitably invest into EVE, regardless whether with breaks or not, I do not consider EVE as just an entertainment. EVE is just as much a serious hobby as playing soccer, collecting stamps or coins or taking care of an aquarium or pets. Treating it not like that is just not doing all the effort and money justice that goes into making things happen in EVE.
Is it actually rewarding, though? Under this system, you are coerced into playing laser boats or mining barges or exploration frigates even though you might want to do something else. Under the current system I can train whatever I want and do whatever I want at the same time and neither impact each other.
And thatās good. Why should you be able to close a gap so quickly if you havenāt trained for a long time? However, you are looking at it from the wrong angle, like so many people do. You may not be able to compete with Vets in all skill areas right away but you can catch up to them one skill category at a time. There are only 5 levels to train for every single skill. Just because they have played for 10 years more than you have, they canāt have more skill levels than that. It is also not strictly necessary to train every skill to L5 to catch up to vets. L4 is more than sufficient for most cases. If people considered more realistic approaches to this āproblemā, theyād stop seeing it as a problem.
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