Consensus that you have no idea how the game works and that Dracs ideas are just the worst is pretty strong as well.
And still no one was able to show that there is actually a problem that needs fixing.
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Pretty wide?
Be that as it may, thats not relevant to topic.
Everyone knows you will attack/troll/deny any suggestion to change bumping, no matter what. That’s fine, Your prerogative.
Perma-bumping is a problem.
If you want to prevent a target warping off indefinitely, apply a point.
That’s what points are in the game for. That and nothing else.
Primary function of a bump is to displace a ship. The “soft-tackle” element is secondary.
I suggested it as an alternative.
I prefer it as compared to a hard limit because I want people to be able to put extra effort in.
Even easier to remove the locking restriction on safe log off.
I rather liked your idea in many ways, however it did impact other areas of game play.
The gankers of Miniluv was suggesting 25 minutes to form up, I think that is too much time, 10 minutes is what they should have to work with. in my opinion of course.
Considering everybody sucks at something, I guess it’s something to be good at sucking 
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At last! This is turning into a genuine BJ rant.
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Well, I am glad that we have people who know what they are talking about … and then we have you, who thinks his opinions matters.
I think 25 mins is too much, as well.
Taking that long to get a fleet together and deployed to a bumped target is just lazy and inefficient.
15 mins would naturalize with the Capsuleer Log-off, Suspect and Criminal Timers.
And another one.
You guys need to get off of your high horses. When people, who actually know what they are talking about, suggest 25 minutes, then people who do not know what they are talking about should not come in and declare that - in their opinion - it is too much.
Why?
Because you do not know what you are talking about.
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My opinions matter only in as much as people listen to them or respect me, something that I am very confortable with. The opinion is that 10 minutes should be enough time for them to form up to gank and they are being a bit lazy or that this mechanic gives them an easy time of it. Part of that opinion wants them to have to gank on gates and chase the freighter. Rather than bump bump… gank, dock, 15 minutes while another bump bump and then gank…, you get it, it is like a factory line…
PS In nullsec we sort out reaction fleets in a couple of minutes and if you are telling me that gankers who have the exact freighter details from ship scans cannot work out fleet composition and need twenty five minute sthen they are pretty damn poor.
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If you cant arrange fleets to be able to deploy within 15mins to engage a bumped target, that’s your own inefficiency and bad planning.
15mins is the standard in EVE, also for Capsuleer Log-off, Suspect and Criminal Timers,
says who ?
If you can’t last longer, you may use some blue pills …
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Yeah, sure, you can have your opinion, but you still speak out of your rear end,
because you have no practical clue of what you are talking about.
They are Miniluv. They gank.
You are Drac. You do not.
That is the important part.
You do not.
They do.
They know what they are talking about, from practical experience.
You do not.
Sometimes it pays off holding back with ones opinion. Having an opinion is fine. Even having an uninformed opinion is fine as well. Expressing it, though, is a different matter, especially when it goes against an informed one.
That is your own, uninformed, opinion based on nothing. They have practise, you have not.
You guys really need to be taught a few lessons.
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Its the standard for all three of the above.
They also have vested interest, which I do not,
Its to be expected they would recommend a higher timer to begin from, and to allow themselves more levity.
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I have ganked, I had a spy alt in Miniluv and ganked with them, plus I have ganked as a AG. So wrong
Incorrect…
My opinion is very informed.
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Are you them ?
I have no idea what you are talking about, I don’t want to take time reading and understanding other people opinions, I rather express mine even though I’m 99% sure it will be out of context.
I can help you having a bigger one.
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Well, thats your choice and problem, sis.
15 mins meets many EVE standards, as timers, related to action for purposes of aggression (which bumping is), and is plenty of time for an organised, prepared nearby gank fleet to mobilize, reach the bumped ship, and engage.
Yeah, sure.
I would rather have someone from Miniluv here explaining the Yes/No, Why/Why nots. Why 25 instead of 10, 15, 20. You know, someone who has actual practical experience in ganking hundreds of them, organising the ganks, etc.
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