Gankers and freighters, a request for discussion. Not a BJ RANT

That is just ■■■■■■■ stupid and shows how little you know about this game. The “sure thing” comes from one side being prepared when they go for the kill, this has nothing to do with ganking!

And this is not a highsec thing, this is LITERALLY EVE.

I was is w-space for ~5 years, we jumped targets when we knew it was a “sure thing”. This is a full loot MMO and loss has direct consequences on your wallet, so everyone is cautions if he has his freeking ISK is on the line.

There are exception of course, sometimes you just whelp stuff for the hell of it.

But most people will take a fight they think they can win… …which is sometimes not the case since the whole point is to make the other guy think exactly that so he commits. And even in ganking you can do that, JF can jump out, miners can swap ship at the Orca. Also it’s highsec, there are neuts all around which can potentially interfere with the gank, something you don’t have in null with your perfect intel…

You claim to “not be ag”, then why do you come here to cry for nerfs to bumping and ganking all the time?

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This is not fair, especially from you.

You are a vehement pro-CODE advocate, to a fault.

You are in no position to blame someone else of vested interest, when your own is so obviously apparent and persistent.

TLDR: You are hopelessly biased.
Everyone knows that, and it reflects on everything you argue on.

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This is EVE
Adapt or die lol

what about rigs ? there is a rig to increase your mass, we use this in barges to stay aligned & warp out faster (and avoid bump)

I gank in highsec and I have fun doing so. It is the only reason I play EVE because it is something you can’t do in any other game.

I’m not a pro-CODE advocate. I’m a player who would like to keep the thing he has fun at.

Drac claims to have fun in null. But somehow he feels the urge to ■■■■ on someones playstile completely unrelated to what he is doing in the game. Why is that?

Same for you. You have so little knowledge about the game mechanics it’s like you never even undocked. But somehow you think you need to change the game mechanics you don’t even understand. Why?

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Those would operate as before.

Meh…
Cba to delve through posts to disprove that (but I know they exist).
Fine, you arent a pro-CODE advocate.
I know its a lie, but whatever.
As to that, I am on record as a pro-CODE advocate myself.
I even own a share, as well as a speshul agent license.

Can you not gank a target within 20mins of the first bump?

That is not the point. The point is that you try to create a problem where there is none.

And on top of that you don’t even know what you are talking about. So you should really just shut up and maybe play the game before you start to suggest changes to it.

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That is the point.

Lets assume as you claim, that I have no idea.

Can you, or can you not, gank a target within 20mins of the first bump?

Nope, this is

:wink:

Bumping is a non-issue

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If its a non-issue, why is there a 1094 post thread, into which all others have been rolled, on it?

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Just do the maths:

-take away all your nonsensical posts
-take away all the posts correcting you

You end up with maybe 50-60 posts :thinking:
Isn’t that strange? :joy:

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The only one who does not see that this is not an issue is you and Darc.

The reason why Drac thinks this is a problem is because deep down in his ag genes he “feels” that ganking is wrong and should be nerfed and only one more nerf is left and finally ag will have a chance.

You are against it because you have no job and need something to do so talking about invented problem of a forum of a game you don’t play seems to be the thing today.

There is no problem with bumping

You ignored two posts addressed to you, in favor of someone elses that was not relevant to what was asked of you.

Your obvious bias and purpused evasion is getting tiresome.

Can you, or can you not, gank a target within 20mins of the first bump?

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I never even use bumps to gank, however I don’t gank Freighters.

There is no problem with bumping

Then a hard-cap duration on bumps to prevent warp wont affect you, either.

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Which will never be implemented because there is no issue.

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Why would I lie, I can go and find the killmails.

I think part of the issue is that it is stale gameplay, initially exciting and fun, but after a while a grind which is pretty certain and very samey, the only real excitement being a large cargo. And it is not much fun at the moment for the hisec based freighter pilot.

But if the action was more kinetic with real chases and less multi-boxing would it be more fun, or does fun equate to certainty of outcome?

Most hisec players are indy focused and are not into training a specific Talos alt for that, especially as it was difficult to keep the standings up. it was difficult enough to get people to train up alt characters to run with gank destroyers to blow up the wreck.

JF’s should be difficult, and the MWD Cloak trick used by some DST pilots can be counted with ceptors and of course NPC’s or other gate traffic being too close. Remember I did suggest that EHP needed to go down if we have no bumping, I meant that.

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A hard-cap to bumping may be closer to implementation that you think.

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Is that why it was supposed to be implemented in February and still isn’t in the game?

A child only sees what he wants :joy:

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