I’m all for pvp and the best evasion I know is to stay docked.
Then either you arent playing, or you are trading etc, which drags us into the endless debate of;
Is it PvP if no one gets shot?
I’m trading mostly.
I think it is. The guy wants me to undock so he can blap me and I simply deny him that opportunity.
No, I mean doing things in game that dont involve flying a ship but do involve working against other people.
Isn’t that what pvp means? People versus people, player versus player…
Yup
But its common for as soon as this subject comes up people will start saying “Market trading isnt PvP”, “Contract Scamming Isnt Pvp” “Indiustrial Competition isnt PvP”
People say a lot of things, doesn’t mean they should be listened to.
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I think you should’ve moved on before you made the thread but I understand it wasn’t possible.
I think the most frustrating thing about EVE is that any Joe Blow can gank you and there’s nothing you can do to get back at them. It’s not the ganking that’s frustrating, EVE is a pvp game and everyone understands that. It’s the inability to get payback that’s frustrating. But in the end, you either accept it or you don’t, there’s no middle ground.
There are two schools of thought:
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Rvenge is a poor reason to do anything. Put that energy into making your revenge be being impossible for it to happen again.
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There are ways. you just need to be real sleekit about it is all.
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The point you are missing here is that the gankers are having fun and the Sisyphean PvE’rs are not. So yeah, you can blow up the gankers’ ships, but it will not be satisfying revenge, because the gankers have fun even when their ships are getting blown up.
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I wouldn’t want to play a game where I’d feel I’d want to take revenge on another player. I’m not the revenge kind of person.
As for:
I don’t think it’s possible, I mean to make sure you’re not ganked ever again. I think that’s an illusion.
Better to be okay with getting ganked and move on, otherwise stop playing the game.
Ok I shouldve been more clear.
Ganked in that way or in that ship. I.e. dont make whatever mistake it was again.
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Can you tell me with certainty that every gank was possible because of a player’s mistake? I’d find that hard to believe but you’ve been playing longer than I have so I’ll take your word for it.
Urgh, the inevitable ganking is bad, EvE players are sociopaths thread. How many more of these ? Some people seizing every opportunity to shout about the unfairness of it all, throwing tantrums in any remotely related topic, probably the same individuals that run to mommy screaming because they got hit by a snowball (poor kid who threw it being labeled as a sociopath). When was the last time they got a HTFU or GTFO response ?
Here’s a piece of gardening advice: grow some, it’s good for your mental health !
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I agree. Some will gank you to let you know you aren’t safe.
Its a good question.
I can only speak from my own experiences of course. My first gank was due to my ignorance of how a now-defunct mechanism worked. All the others I can think of we me not being as careful as I could have been, but eh you may be right.
Still, anyone can reduce their chances of it astronomically by being careful and planning ahead.
The response of a reason-able person. They don’t want reason, they want it their way, which does not involve planning, or other players.
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People who whine about ganking are quite simply poor sports.
It is FACT that you can be 100% safe in high-sec and never lose a ship as long as you LEARN how the mechanics work.
I regularly fly 10b+ straight through Uedama in a DST, Orca, hell I’ve done it in a t1 industrial. If you use the MWD cloak trick and always use insta-dock/undock bookmarks you will in all likelihood NEVER die in high sec.
Once you get REALLY good at the game like me, you have duplicate baiting/ganking setups at every hub and simply have to Jump Clone to move.
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Pushing people out of certain areas can be economically worth it regardless of the killmail details.
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If people are really that mad about getting ganked in HiSec the solution of course is to move your mining operation to LowSec or WormHole space.
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