Ganking on Ice Fields – An Absurd Situation

Why tho. The income is peanuts for 4 accounts in HS mining. Go do anything else pve with 4 accounts and earn massively more.

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At least he’s honest. I just can’t pick on someone who’s stuck with the game for that long.

Would be my best advice as well. :wink:

Sounds like you were just sitting stationary and AFK for that to happen… Next time try orbiting an asteroid…

As for the rest of your post, there’s plenty of area’s in New Eden that are less active, just a little bit of research will help a lot..

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This seems to be a recurring theme the last few day. All the carebears whining about stuff that simply moving to another system would fix.

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Eh, most good ice systems in HS is basically claimed and camped by multi boxers. You have to go far from trade hubs, at which point the hauling time makes the crap ISK/hr even worse. Just do not mine in HS it’s literally the worst way to spend time in eve. Even if u enjoy mining or afk mining, do it in NS or js or pochven in alliance space. I don’t even get why these multi boxers put so much effort to gank rivals to a worse than mediocre isk activity…

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Its time to stop calling it high sec

Why? The problem isn’t the name, the problem is people like you who don’t know the meaning of the word “high” and think it also means “total”.

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High security space has more security measures than low security space, which in turn has more security measures than null sec space which has none.

Between the punishing force of CONCORD, gate guns, the threat of the creation of kill rights, bans on smartbombs and bans on warp disruption bubbles and more, high security space has the highest amount of security measures in the game.

The name ‘high sec’ fits well.

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Really? :sweat_smile:

Do kill rights get created in NS space? No.

It’s one of the many security measures HS uses to make HS a bit safer.

Will the threat of kill rights stop a specialised ganking character from ganking? No.

But it may make regular players think twice before they make an opportunity attack with the character they also use to fly Marauders or Exhumers in HS in the next month. This means kill rights is one of the many security measures that makes HS a bit safer.

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Killrights don’t make HS any safer.

They’re a placebo to make risk averse carebears feel better after they got their ships ganked.

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My only recommendation to you, is to seek out an established industrialist multiboxer and have that conversation about ship fit, areas toi mine with less concern skilling, clone plug-ins and most importantly mechanics of thew space you occupy to devise a strategy on how to acclimate and assess the cost benefit of your setup.

and, in the meantime, you should switch to skiffs and tank them to at least 100k ehp+ Also need to add shield command burst to your orca. If you have gankers in your part of town that think you are an easy mark, they will seek you out. you need to break that trend by creating a harder challenge.

If there’s an Orca on site, ganking shouldn’t be a problem. An Orca can easily fit a Large Remote Shield Booster II and launch 2 Heavy Shield Maintenance Bot II. (Two of the heavy drones repair more shields than 5 medium ones).

With the skills for each, the Orca pilot can make ganking difficult for the small roving gank fleets. They only attack one ship at a time and usually with just a few ships. Catch the gank squads off guard with some serious shield reps.

My Orca can run a large remote shield booster for 4.25 minutes even with everything else turned on.

It’s ridiculous the level of security & paranoia that high sec miners have to do to reduce the danger of HS, so they can mine mediocre or crap ores & ice for a pittance.

Miners should go to NS, far safer, and far more lucrative.

But then they’d have to show up to defend the space they mine in, and they don’t want to do that.

I wish I was exaggerating, but the #1 complaint I’ve seen miners have here about nullsec is the expectation of showing up for defense fleets placed on them by the people they decided to join.

Well most miners don’t train combat skills in addition to mining skills unless they want to also pay for an alt that will only train combat. In this silly game, you’re required to learn quite a lot of new skills in order to be adept at combat. Most mining skills don’t translate to combat.

You start with almost all the skills you need to be hero tackle, but all you need is a t1 frigate, a t1 MWD, and a t1 point/web. No guns, or any other modules needed. The only skill this requires that a miner wouldn’t already have trained is the Propulsion Jamming I, and that takes 30 minutes.

This has been good enough participation for every alliance I’ve ever seen in this game, and the long standing entry point for all players new to fleets across Eve. Not only is this extremely cheap, but you could even profit off of it. These ships are so cheap a FC might just give you one, which you can then claim SRP on when you lose it.

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You could always field a cloaked Cenotaph in your mining fleet.

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You don’t need anything that big. At least I didn’t. :laughing:

Breaking News: You can stop training mining skills for a few weeks and train basic combat skills so you can can help defending the space you live in in some support role.

And as reward you get triple the income you’d get in Highsec. Only an exceptionally stupid person wouldn’t make that deal, especially when considerung that like 99% of the time spent of a miner is “income generation” and barely 1% “defending”.

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