Get rid of dscan hotkey already!

V hotkey best hotkey. stop being bad.

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Just no.

Your opinions…

I survived one of those camps in my Orca, now have 185 kill rights. Got saved by Anti-Gank guys who started remote repping and boosting me. It was an awful lightshow because I refused to save myself by logging off.

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I try but I can’t afford that much cocaine

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They could make D-Scan a module or make a module that does the same thing and toss it into a highslot with a low capacitor usage level. Then you give something up for the ease of use and the added server load, just a spitball idea so dont go all code-red on it.

Cocaine is for,scrubs…do blue pill.

Couldn’t the bots just do that already. A bot is automation after all. If they can scrape local, they can scrape d-scan. The reason bots don’t do this is that local is just a safer option for them.

On the main topic, I would say that the important part of checking d-scan is the actual checking of d-scan, and if you forget to press a hot key, would you still remember to look at the d-scan list.

For me, the physical act of pressing a button acts as a cue to turn my gaze to the Dscan list. If the cue was removed I would find it harder to remember to do this. So I would never use such a feature.

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How typical.

One generation cries that it (whatever it is) is too hard and demand it to be made easier, and eventually they cry enough and get what they want. Then a new generation comes and cries that it is too hard, and that they want it easier. It’s a never ending cycle, until everyone is too dumb to actually do anything, because they have never learned to deal with any hardships. For the record: pressing a button regularly isn’t complicated, tedious or hard. It is muscle memory.

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Well then lets “up” the responsibility. No automated overview - let’s spam buttons for that too. For that matter, no automatically updated screen. You want 1 FPS? Spam-click a button once per second. You want 60 FPS? Spam-click a button 60 times per second.

It’s just a retarded sentiment without any rational perspective on what interesting or good game play should be and shouldn’t be. Spam clicking buttons just to get basic information and operate the game isn’t fun, and isn’t good or interesting game play. And it has nothing to do with personal responsibility. There’s plenty of personal responsibility and good game play that can be injected into the game without having to resort to nerfing the UI and forcing the player to do stupid, repetitive, menial tasks.

The game shouldn’t be catered to or around bots. It should be catered to players. Figuring out out to stop bots comes after that.

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A, lets say, 10-30s interval d-scan (of limited range) by an active high slot module, wont affect bots.

Cutting edge bots can already spam d-scan far more frequently than that, and identify entries in the d-scan listing that are a risk and cause the bot to warp to safe.

Imo, most bots dont bother with d-scan currently.
Instead they simply react to a new entry in Local, possibly further programmed to identify the set “color” of the new entrant into the system in terms of player applied flags.

Well be that as it may, the argument that we can’t have an automated d-scan (call it ‘radar’ or whatever) because of bots is ludicrous. Might as well say we can’t have an overview because of bots, or [INSERT X].

You don’t create a game for the purpose of dodging or denying bots. Of course you want to do that, but that’s not why you create a game. You create a game for players.

Don’t cater the game, or gameplay, around bots.

As I said, and automated d-scan, whether by modules or otherwise, is largely irrelevant to botting.

Most bots already dont bother with d-scan, but they can if need be and the botter chooses to upgrade their botting programs/scripts.

A botter would not have use for an automated d-scan system ingame, or d-scan module. They can spam d-scan already at a rate far higher than an in-game, allowed automation would allow for, already.

Yes, but my point was, I don’t care if it is irrelevant to botting or not. Let’s say it is relevant. Let’s say it would be helpful to bots. It’s still not an argument.

Of course I know you didn’t try to make that argument. We are on the same side here.

I know. I get it.

My point is that when we discuss d-scan, we can largely ignore the bot issue.

Thats a huge relief on the discussion, as we can instead focus on d-scan for non-botters.


I’m ambivalent on the issue.
I think the click-spam is a bit crap, but on the otherhand, nobody is forcing you to spam it, except as often as you want.

I wouldnt mind a high slot, active module that automatically d-scans at something like 15s intervals (preferably at a limited range). I dont think that would have much impact on predator/prey situation.

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