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Well … I can agree with many points you say here guys …
My problem is not what others do to be competitive and earning ISK …
My problem is using multiboxing to take others down …
I mean you can earn ISK and make projects by doing missions, FW, Mining, Trade …
But one activity is much superior to others and it is this multiboxing ganking … I see many of you here says it is so expensive to multibox but I don’t think so…
This people just pay OMEGA with plex they earn by selling SKILL INJECTORS … So they don’t need much … So almost everything they gain by shooting transport ships is for themSELF…
They babysit new account over and over and when security status is gone they go for new one.
I don’t know much activity you can do at any moment, and earn billions of ISK in a hour just by undocking several ship, shoot and haul goods …
Some gain ISK by mining, doing missions, explorations … But the evidence is the best activity is the one who are making new accounts days after day and just train them to suicide missions, feed them by selling skill points …
It seems legal here but in many games it would be cheating. And I don’t care for advantage they have (like miners ) if they don’t hurt me…
But look the other day, I come back to the game after years of not playing. Just pick all my stuff across the universe and was going direction trade HUB to sell it because it would help me to have some ISK for fresh re-start… And multies just shoot me near the HUB station and took all my stuff…
This kind of activity is not so interesting if you do it in group, but running multies account (yes maybe OMEGA but multi) is really not fair to all others players who do other activities ruined by multies…
I have never been affected by multibox gannking yet.
Why not try playing outside high sec space? There are no gankers here! Only lots of people who want to kill you, but they’re generally not multiboxing entire fleets.
(Also is this a stealth ‘nerf ganking’ thread?)
Just pretend that the multiboxers are real players. It doesn’t make a difference whether it’s boxed characters or real players, the end result is the same.
It doesn’t make any sense. 500M was ok to lose but not 30. Regardless of the circumstances, the losses are both real.
Should have been ready for the losses, no matter how they happened.
I’m very surprised to read how many players have little spirit of adaptation.
There is no game tailormade for everyone.
New Eden really offers so many possibilities to find ones own space and activity.
No they don’t. Please do some research about the topic you are talking about. You are just making wild assumptions and have absolutely no clue how gankers operate.
I do know several activities that return a billion ISK per hour if you do them with 15 ships simultaneously from just undocking and shooting things.
Again, you don’t know what you are talking about.
How come that literally every of these ganking-whine topics is made by someone who didn’t do research on how ganking works, how gankers operate and simply running wild theories? I even do agree that the current system is a bad one and should be changed from the core, but for totally different reasons.
Don’t let your activities be ruined by gankers, simple as that. It takes less than a day to actually learn the most basic steps of not being ganked at all. It isn’t witchcraft or black magic, it’s a simple mixture of knowing the mechanics, investing some effort in preparation and paying attention while you are undocked.
The ability to buy ones way to shiny ships, expensive modules, implants, and SP does not make one a capable pilot, one who knows how to make the most of a ship/fit, nor does it make one experienced in the ways of Eve. All it does is make for shiny targets for experienced pilots. For example, I’ve popped many clearly inexperienced pilot’s shiny BS’s with a Frig…How exactly is this pay-to-win?
Beside all the negative,
You still in game of 18 years,
So I dont think you really need a reason,
Just let it out and you will be fine.
o7
Dont spend too much in ships and fits until you are comfortable again in PVP.
If you see enemies approaching, dont engage and jump somewhere else so you dont get triple teamed.
Choose your egagements wisely.
Solo play is fun and you can do a lot alone, but you can always join a temporary fleet for some group action.
Everyone loses ships. You learn from them to see what works or doesnt. Pay attention to killmails so you can see what might have been the reason.
Welcome back to Eve! Ive been bacl after 8yrs away and what helped me the most is spending some time reading everything i could online like eve university and other sites. You can never have too much information.
Have fun and ill see you out there! S!
I played 10 years ago - it was ok. now bot farms hijack freighters. do not play. stay away
False information right here
You should have paid the ransom.
Why didnt antiganking save your freighter
Not to mention that multiboxing alphas is a big no-no 
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- there are ways to avoid getting ganked, purely defensive and precautionary measures you should take. They are not foolproof, but they reduce losses. Plenty of posts about it, and plenty of videos. Intel gathering is the main part, smart flying and planning is the other. An extra alpha account may come in handy for that, if necessary.
- whether you were ganked by a multiboxer or a by a regular group of players, it’s still a gank you can avoid.
- as a solo omega account player for many years, I can confirm that it is very viable gameplay. Of course it takes more time to get the skills you (think you) need, to do all the specialties you want.
- the only real necessity for an extra omega account is when you start flying the really expensive hulls, rorquals, jump freighters, carriers and above, which for safety reasons require you to have a cyno pilot online to keep risk manageable. Cyno pilots need an omega account.
Don’t focus on multiboxing as a phenomenon. It’s not going anywhere, and it doesn’t affect you at all if you do not let it 
Moreover, at one point you will have enough experience to get sufficient isk on a regular basis to start plexing a second omega, if you really want. The first one will be a grind, after that not so much if you make both pilots work together to ease the grind.
o7
I don’t know your situation, but it sounds like you are already “winning” in a deeply meaningful way. I wonder how many players have none of those things.
Since you’re an old player, you probably don’t need the likes of me telling you how to play. I can offer some perspective on the idea of accomplishment, however, based on what you have said. You love sci-fi, and getting immersed in the virtual dark future is a pleasing experience. The game’s complexity and danger make the time you spend playing engaging and interesting, give you something to imagine, plan, and execute. If you’re enjoying those things, that’s an accomplishment - you’re getting you money’s worth. Some other player, no matter how many accounts, might make you a target for the same reason, using the same process, and their success is an accomplishment in which you played a role. Maybe an unplanned role that prompts you to adjust your activities for a while, sure. But it’s all temporary. You’re participating in a kind of ephemeral thing, making memories, learning, enjoying a pleasant feeling (yes, even in danger - this is why there are adrenaline junkies). You have the disposable time and income to do this with a whole bunch of strangers all over the world, and then log out, go back to family, back to work, look at the horizon, breathe the air.
When your ship is destroyed, just remember it was never yours. You pay rent to CCP to access their data on their system. Nothing you mine, nothing you trade, no ship you fly or lose belongs to you. They’re all property of the company, and you’re paying the company for temporary access to their data. Same is true for everyone else here, too. The moment CCP pull the plug, all that stuff is gone anyway.
That’s the value proposition. You work to pay bills, feed family, keep them healthy, plan for their future. You have a little extra that you can put into seeking that good feeling you get from flying in space, working toward a goal, moving close to realization in small steps, and having setbacks. The players who hand you those setbacks are often in the same boat, as it were. You each have a brief moment of interaction that will someday be forgotten - bot for a while, the experience brings a smile. It’s the experiences that you play for, and it’s the medium that you pay for.
Or just roll Alpha for a while. See you in space.
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Omega gives you 2x the Training Speed and access to half the ships you can’t fly as Alpha.
You get extra loot from daily login rewards and you don’t have a limit on how much you can train.
If you play 5hrs a month it is worth the sub cost. There is an unlimited amount of content to experience. Tons of content that is premade and even more that players initiate. Read everything you can on Eve Academy to get your first taste of knowledge and then read forums and wiki on eve university websites. Every week, learn more out of the game so you can maximize your time spent in the game. Start with cheap ships and then work your way up as you can afford it. Get used to dying. Eventually you will know what to avoid and who to engage.
Have fun!
I also am married with a family and a full time job. My characters kill sheet is almost all deaths. lol i allow my adult grown self money for Omega and a few dollars more if i need to recoup from a bad gank.
Its called pay to play, you dont have to multibox, you don’t have to play their game if you don’t want to, but you have to play smart.
Best advice for any Eve player, regardless of what they chose to do in the game.
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right.
as also: do the right thing, use common sense, be open-minded, etc.
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