Going red on HP, don't fear it

Ok, sorry guys, just in a good mood today and having some fun. Do continue.

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And this means it never will?

I see…maybe YOU are wrong here…

I havent seen anything from you to compel me to change my mind from violence being the only true sanction of authority. And its a sanction that everyone has at their disposal.

Sorry, that’s wrong. From IRL experience. Was about to make a long paragraph but I just don’t want to talk about me IRL.
You can manipulate people through violence, but you will still fear them.

Again not if you are applying enough violence.

again, yes. Only if you kill people, you won’t fear them. But then you will fear their friends

What friends?

I think you are attempting to be specific.

Unless you want to construct a scenario for study, I dont feel this compelling enough.

If you ONLY kill people and not philosophies you may have to enact a constant stream of violence, yes.

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Blah blah blah, same old conservative bleating about “censorship”. Sorry if the truth hurts, but people in a private club telling you “we’re tired of listening to your stupidity” is not censorship and you have zero right to remain a member of that private club.

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The problem is people forming groups and deciding other peolle outside thise groups are bad. Once everyone gets that were all human and we all get on the same page well be fine, that wont happen though due to hatred greed and ignornace. So i guess we need to get rid of those peopke.

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You know already that I have done all that one man can do to compose this quarrel. After my visits to Germany I have realized vividly how Herr Hitler feels that he must champion other Germans, and his indignation that grievances have not been met before this. He told me privately, and last night he repeated publicly, that after this Sudeten German question is settled, that is the end of Germany’s territorial claims in Europe.

However much we may sympathize with a small nation confronted by a big and powerful neighbour, we cannot in all circumstances undertake to involve the whole British Empire in war simply on her account. If we have to fight it must be on larger issues than that.

My good friends, this is the second time in our history that there has come back from Germany to Downing Street peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time .

IOW, “bury your head in the sand and pretend that everyone is good”. FFS, are we supposed to pretend that there’s nothing wrong with Nazis, that we’re all human and it’s “greed and ignorance” to call them bad?

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Yeah. We don’t judge the person, we judge the acts. You don’t know the person.

Nonsense. There are acts horrible enough that any person committing them can and should be judged.

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Also, why am I not surprised that the Trump supporter is also a Nazi apologist…

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never. You can’t judge a person. You can only judge acts. Otherwise you are a fascist. Exactly what the nazis were doing : judging the person on what they were.

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You have got to be trolling at this point. Acts don’t come from nowhere, a person willing to rape/murder/etc is a bad person. Good people don’t just “accidentally” torture someone to death for fun. And if you don’t see a difference between “murdering someone for their race/religion” and “calling the people advocating genocide ‘bad’”, well, you’re so hopelessly stuck in Nazi apologism that there’s no hope for you.

Also, please learn what “fascism” actually means and stop using it as a substitute for “I don’t like these people”.

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If you choose not to choose
You still have made a choice.

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Everyone either takes action or chooses a course through omission of action; therefore through everyone’s act they are known.

Unless you are saying that genetic makeup precludes humans to particular acts, no one here is advocating violence based on anything but acts.

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Bad persons don’t exist. Only children think there are good and bad person.

Only idiots think the world can be divided between good and bad people.
That’s how you go into full fascist mode. “Those who are not with us, are against us”. Yeah sure bring democracy under tons of bombs. You justify bad actions because you claim to be a good person. But the truth is, your actions are bad. Being a fascist is no excuse.

Nope, having an opinion is fine, expressing it is too; but with an opinion as controversial as yours you’re going to get people that disagree with it, and the way that you present it.

I’m very sorry that a post like “not everybody should be allowed to say everything,not all voices should be heard” seems to be in order in your world.

Au contraire, I’m with Voltaire on this one; I might not like what you say, but I think that you should be allowed to say it as long as it doesn’t break any rules. That doesn’t mean that I won’t criticise what you say though.

He simply can not accept that there is something outside of his bubble that may has a valid right to speak too…

You can’t criticise somebody for doing exactly the same things as you without being a hypocrite, because you’re certainly not someone who is prepared to accept other points of view.

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You missed the part where i pointed out hatred and ignorance being a problem.