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If they did that it would encourage players to play less which is a bad idea.
Don’t forget “anyone who matters”, some serious ego issues lol.
I forgot you could fly titans and cyno alts as an alpha.
Depends on your mentality, people who are paying for a ntflix account think to themselves they should watch something because “well I’m already paying for it.” What happens? They end up just watching ■■■■ tv. What am I going to do, log in and ship spin just because I’ve already paid the sub? Ask someone else to log in and send me picture for the week while I’m not near a PC? How will paying for the time I’m actually using it reduce the amount of time I’m using it?
Yeah well, I kinda picked that bit out because I totally got meme’d there. “I’ll call him kid, that will really piss him off” I couldn’t find the image though…
Daoden > The reason is because it hurts CCPs income.
Galaxy Raid > Staying alpha hurts more.
Daichi Yamato > I forgot you could fly titans and cyno alts as an alpha.
They have pretty long training queues though right? So it’s not like I can create 50 toons, pay for 1 hour on each and go on a rampage is it? I’ve got to pay for the years of SP needed to fly the titan or months to fly the cyno.
Or am I misrepresenting what you’re saying?
Oh wait, I think I get your argument: staying alpha and not flying titans isn’t an option according to you.
If youve already trained skills and decide you dont need access to your omega skills and just turn them on for the 1-2 hours you need them then you would end up spending less PLEX or money on the game. To put it simply if you really dont have time to play the game then dont. If you have the time but are not able to PLEX then sub, if your to cheap to sub then i dont know what to tell you.
I’ve always subbed, by 12 months. I’m just looking at how the game has changed and therefore how I play it now. It’s not in chunks that make sense for monthly or annual basis. In the 10 years or so I’ve been here I’ve trained all the skills I really use. I’m now training skills for stuff I’ve never done.
When I play, I find myself not doing anything for hours, on occasion this is a few days, just waiting. I definitely don’t need omega to watch a chat channel, when something comes up, push the plex button and play the game.
What do you mean “when something comes up” part of the game is to do what you want, if your just a ping warrior thats on you not CCP nor should they cater to that style purely because you dont want to PLEX for a full month.
Yes, the game is indeed to do what I want. Game mechanics have slimmed it down so it’s not even always available. I pretty much do a single activity. And why shouldn’t CCP cater to my play style? When you’re selling a product you want it to cater to as many people as possible right?
They can to your play style in game but shouldnt break PLEX down more just for you to be Omega for 1 hour chunks.
Player could have cynos alts that arent omega except for the few minutes they need to be qt a time.
PI could be done once a week for 1 hour on hundreds of acounts for far less then a month sub allowing for alot more farming.
Orca and barge pilots only need to PLEX for the time they want to mine.
Titan pilots as was mentioned just PLEX up when theres a fight.
The list goes on. Whatever your play style is is fine, bit wanting omega on demand and only for a little bit is not going to happen because it can and will be abused.
So things like PI I agree with you, factories stop if you’re not omega or whatever.
I don’t see eye to eye with the ship arguments, the toon that can fly it has been heavily invested in, by acquiring the SP to fly that ship. I see no issue with after that huge sink for it to be available on demand. Only putting in plex for when you want to play the game seems fine to me.
Cynos, smaller skill queue, but who cares, both sides have the same advantage, so NFG.
Go back and read my first post.
Once a titan and cyno pilot are trained (of which there are thousands) you don’t need to keep training them.
So you go alpha apart from the few days a year you need them.
Ccp get more money for charging them for the month than they would the two days a year they are needed.
@Makshima_Shogo already explained how to accomplish exactly what you want to do, without any unnecessary game modifications.
Then we fundamentally disagree on the central point. I think the commitment has been made by either training the skills or injecting them. Only paying to use that character when you need it seems fine to me at that point.
Not something I’m bothered about, it just came up, I’m bothered about the smaller omega time.
Huge advantage to players. Terrible huh?
My original suggestion was more granular, not pay by the minute. By the day would be perfectly within that scope, I’m not asking for my card to be billed by the minute for the time I’m logged in for that month, that’s ridiculous.
What’s your point here? That we should have to pay for omega for more time than we actually want the skill queue active? Why shouldn’t we be able to pay for the training time we intend to use and no more?
Sounds good to me.
Or orders outside of your skills are removed from the market?
Sounds good.
Once I’ve trained all the skills I intend to use what more reason do I have to pay the sub, OTHER than so I can use those skills (omega). I’m only in need of half the service provided.
But I am thinking about the advantages to me.
More effort by CCP to purge bots / input bc’s. The only effective way will be to delete any drops / remove isk that has been earned using these methods. If they don’t make any isk doing it they have ZERO reason to. Any loot just disappears; it’s going to be real difficult for them to justify the effort to themselves, no matter how few plex it costs them.
Sorry for what?
the ingame item is now aprox 1.5 hours game time.
Hold the ■■■■■■■ phone mate, I’m asking for something that benefits me!
Explain the downside for (((ME)))).
Great! then we agree, I should only pay for the time I will actually use the training queue and these additional skills?
I don’t get to choose this 20 mil though do I?
This is honestly the only argument I have seen so far I view as a reasonable alternative to my suggestion. My counter is that I have only ever paid for my subs yearly, so I’m converting real money into isk no matter what. Where possible I would like the real world monies to remain real world.
It’s their right? NOPE. they offer a service and i decide if i want to use it. The consumer decides if they want the product. im proposing things that will assist my continued use of the service. the skill extractor market is a clever way to bust isk into money because they can only be produced using real money. I’m not stupid, the sp trading is probably one of their best money making ideas. Along with many others, once it was introduced i bet a lot of sp was repurposed.
Yes I exist in a world that revolves around me. I don’t but lets just say I do, should I pay for 30 days at a time or 1 day at a time?
ad hom
But whatever i’m not twelve XD
I’m asking for something that benefits me. ■■■■ yes i am! ccp have set the precedent that people can play to a certain level without playing, why shouldnt i expect better treatment when i am offering a small financial incentive?
Just because somehing is unlikely doesnt write it off from discussion.
I agree with the OP. CCP should split PLEX yet again, causing yet another quick increase of the ISK-price of 30 days of game time.
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