Guristas DED 4 Jackdaw fit

Hi,

I am doing high sec ded sites and I am about to learn the jackdaw and this is the fit I am about to use:

[Jackdaw, DED Jackdaw]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Coreli A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Republic Fleet Small Cap Battery
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Pithum C-Type Kinetic Shield Amplifier
Pithum C-Type Thermal Shield Amplifier

Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Core Probe Launcher I

Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I

Sisters Core Scanner Probe x16
Scourge Precision Light Missile x3000
Scourge Fury Light Missile x5000

Is this good? Is there room for improvements or saving isks?
it being stable is important to me.
Thank you,

For myself I’d fit a DCU because I enjoy a bit of safety and even though people say it’s a waste on a ship you can put in defense mode it really helps when in sharpshooters mode and especially if you find yourself in defense mode.

Awesome,
[Jackdaw, DED Jackdaw]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Coreli A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Republic Fleet Small Cap Battery
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Pithum C-Type Kinetic Shield Amplifier
Pithum C-Type Thermal Shield Amplifier

Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Core Probe Launcher I

Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Bay Loading Accelerator I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I

Sisters Core Scanner Probe x16
Scourge Precision Light Missile x3000
Scourge Fury Light Missile x5000

I can fit that and replace the cpu rig with Small Bay Loading Accelerator I that will help a bit in dps.

DCU is a waste of dps. You have ~6.5k ehp with DCU and ~5.5k without. If you gonna make mistake, most sites will alpha you in 1-2 volleys anyway. Your tank is your speed. Play around with rigs and your cap. Maybe t2 cap rig will make you stable and plug at least a bit your EM hole. Many of sentry guns deal omni dmg and will hurt your shields a lot.

Give it a go with DCU, learn how to fly ship and sites. But in long run you want to go for more DPS version since jackdaw lack in DPS. Also get some faction ammo for more range control.

Greed kills, when your tank is failing, bounce. Changing mode don’t take effect moment you hit button. It take few seconds. Don’t be to late.

ps. some drone sites point and web. Watch out if you decide to run them.

One thing I should’ve mentioned is I am going to do Gurista sites only in high-sec. That means Thermal and Kinetic damage are going to be tanked only right? If so then down below is my final fit

[Jackdaw, *DED Jackdaw]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Coreli A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Republic Fleet Small Cap Battery
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Pithum C-Type Kinetic Shield Amplifier
Pithum C-Type Thermal Shield Amplifier

Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Core Probe Launcher I

Small Core Defense Field Extender II
Small Kinetic Shield Reinforcer II
Small Thermal Shield Reinforcer II

Sisters Core Scanner Probe x16
Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile x3000
Scourge Precision Light Missile x3000
Scourge Fury Light Missile x5000

Not sure about the extender.

thanks

Yes, but some npc sentry guns tend to do all damage types. That’s why I suggested to have at lest one EM shield rig. T2 Thermal and kinetic rigs you have there only give around 6% resists for 10% increase in signature radius. Not worth it in my opinion.

Something like this might be better option if you want use T2 rigs and go for more tank. Plugged EM hole, more shield booster and cap rig to mitigate higher cap usage from shield booster rig.

[Jackdaw, **DED Jackdaw]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Coreli A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Republic Fleet Small Cap Battery
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Pithum C-Type Kinetic Shield Amplifier
Pithum C-Type Thermal Shield Amplifier

Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Core Probe Launcher I

Small EM Shield Reinforcer II
Small Core Defense Operational Solidifier II
Small Capacitor Control Circuit II

Sisters Core Scanner Probe x16
Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile x3000
Scourge Precision Light Missile x3000
Scourge Fury Light Missile x5000

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Nice, I’ll fit that. and see what happens.

Thank you ,

ded4 guristas : you land 30km away from a group of … 7 cruisers ? +20 ish frigates. The gate is 20km behind the scout cruiser .
The frigates have very low DPS and like 10km range ; the cruisers have more DPS and 120km range. with 100 EHP/s you can 100% tank this room easy. It’s actually also enough to tank the second room if you are fast enough.

MSB

with a PCT MSB you already have 54 HP/s and 55% res so 120 EHP/s. so it’s enough to tank the full site. Then the issue is to feed it.
I think MAPC + ancil T2+ ancil T1 give enough PG to fit 4 rockets + RF MCB + restrained 5MN. You can then fit a CCC T2 if you want, or range rig in the remaining rig slot.

in the remaining lows, two BCU seem adequate.I reach 400 DPS with scourge fury, which is good.
In the two remaining mids, your pick. cap recharger, missile guidance computer for more range, kinetic shield hardener. the range is kinda lacking so personallyI would go with double MGC range scripted.

SSB

You can also switch to a SSB .This will save the ancil rigs, the cap battery (go to a small), the MAPC ; hower your tank is lower so you need a kinetic shield hardener to have the same tank.

fit
[Jackdaw, ded4 rocket SSB]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Republic Fleet Small Cap Battery
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Missile Guidance Computer II
Kinetic Shield Hardener II

Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II

Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I




Missile Precision Script x1
Missile Range Script x1
Scourge Fury Light Missile x3975
Guristas Scourge Rocket x4000
Scourge Rage Rocket x250

If your just interested in running the Guristas 4/10, it can be done with a long range light missile sniper fit without any tank.

I run the 4/10 on one of my alts several times a week with this fit:
[Corax, High Sec Guristas]
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System

1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Astro-Inertial Compact Missile Guidance Computer, Missile Range Script
Astro-Inertial Compact Missile Guidance Computer, Missile Range Script
F-90 Compact Sensor Booster, Targeting Range Script

Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I

220 DPS at ~84 km

The jackdaw should be able to achieve much higher dps at similar or longer range with a better shield buffer because of its built in resists.

Wrong. The longest range cruisers in this site are the Pithum Infernos with about 75-78 km range. I orbit with an untanked Corax at 80 km and nothing in the site can hit me. You only need enough buffer to burn out of range and then it is cake. If an untanked Corax can do it, then a Jackdaw mostly certainly can do it without tank.

[Jackdaw, High Sec Guristas]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

5MN Microwarpdrive II
Small Shield Booster II
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script
Republic Fleet Small Cap Battery

Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
[empty high slot]

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I

300+ dps out to ~87km range. Put a shield booster on there because I didn’t know what else do with the extra mids, it certainly isn’t needed if you orbit at 80 km.

Yes. I meant they orbit you at 20 ish km. It’s important since the rocket fit wants to spend the least time moving from one to the other, so you want 20km range.

Yes it can be done in a lot of different fits.

The issue is not really to be able to do it, but to do it quick enough.

Personally I consider a good fit can do 5-6 min, from entering the system, to leaving the system with the loot. My average time on ded4 gu is 5:30 on the last 35 sites I did. (record is 4:50 when I did two in the same system). Of course if you don’t consider the initial warpin and the exit, then it’s less but it’s harder to track since you don’t have the local chat that gives you the time.

That’s why I think rocket is better than LM, because it’s easy to tank the whole site and you have more DPS.

I’m not a get close to the target kinda guy. So rockets to me are off the table even with the extra range. I know faster means more isk but I don’t like rushing things. I am a safety comes first captain. light + shields + cap stable is my approach. I have tested Profile - Lis_Torin - EVE Online Forums build and it suits me very well. One problem though I wanted to increase the auto missile damage so I bought the navy one. I thought it said 600k, I was wrong. I am broke now :(.

that’zs the price of extra safety.