That’s per month, learn to read.
Yea and if CCP took 10% off the top instead of one of those RMT websites, you’d have given them $400 a month + sub. Instead you gave it to others.
Sorry for being brash with my substitution there though.
If I follow this right Plex would become a crypto currency? I am still new to this stuff. I think i got the NFT part as those are like things for the developing metaverse. I do like the prospect of making $$$ from my incursion running but I am worried how this would influence the mechanics and balance of the game. Did I get this right? Would love to learn more.
They would get 10% of nothing because the entire market would collapse when it has all sellers and no buyers in it.
If that were true, we’d see that with the illicit markets. They exist because that’s untrue. The only thing that would collapse are the profits of those who aren’t TOS complaint. I bet with 40 different players having a yard sale every month would yield CCP That kind of monthly income. Remember, in eve online, things get destroyed forever. So the value and equilibrium would still be achieved. People that play eve aren’t going to complain about it either because people have lost money to ganks in this game when plex was destroyed. No one thought to themselves about how unfair that was, they made fun of him whilst others even said things like, “stuff like this gives eve life” since the loss has meaning but beyond the prices of things, the most important thing in eve is time. It’s why people can experience the adrenaline in certain situations and pvp encounters. Because what they’re really risking, is the product of their time spent in game. Ultimately, the market with seller limitations (none on buyers) would prevent destabilization as everything acquired to participate would have taken time, effort, and investment on part of the players that participate. Also, farmers are legal game in eve online. If they’re a problem to the prices of the market, you can go find and kill them. It is a pvp game.
Wow…people arguing how rmt would be good for EvE…Bob have mercy, never thought I’d see the day. However, if that’s where ol’ hilmar buddy wants to take his game - “why be more loyal to the king than the king is loyal to the king?” Guess our ultimate choice as players is the same as it’s always been…
I still think this opens an untold landslide of a Pandora’s Box in lawsuits and maybe even criminal actions.
Not all against the company either, but against fellow players.
If your game assets represent RW money then stealing or destroying or conning/scamming you out of something has to be a criminal act. You wouldn’t just let it go in RL so why in a game that can be turned into RW $$?
No one saw it for this. This was back when a single plex activated a month of subscription and not the current 500. So it was $20 per plex. That’s a 4 digit sum lost to destruction and 84 months worth of game time. What if the guy who sold the plex lost what he spent his isk on? Maybe erected something in null for some more advanced group to stomp later. Eve is a pvp game. By its nature loss is acceptable. It’d be considered acceptable gameplay. Imagine someone spending $60 today to aquire 1500 plex to make roughly just below 4.5 billion isk to make the difference to be able to purchase a fortizar. Let’s say they did that because they didn’t want to grind out the isk. Local gang ends up blowing it up. He spent real world money for that loss and it’s been going on since plex was introduced. No one considers it like that because they understand it’s a part of the game. You think boxers sue other boxers for cauliflower ears? No. It already happens in eve through the medium of plex. The plex vault probably reduced that a bit but it still remains, the guys who purchase plex often times seek the isk they get from other players being destroyed, scammed, and stolen. It’s a part of eve online. It’s fine. It allows people with expendable income whose time is valuable but limited to play the game in a way they otherwise wouldn’t have the time to afford. Because when you play eve like a normal player, it takes time to be able to amass bpos, minerals, wealth, or anything else in order to establish a foothold anywhere. Someone whose time is limited but have the income to accelerate things like erecting a fortizar in a system for their corp where there’s no station to dock at already exist. You don’t need to spend $20 for 1.5 billion isk if you have the free time to acquire the isk in game which incidentally, a lot of players do. However, the amount of time required to acquire that 1.5 bil is something some people simply don’t have the time for unless they want to work on a monthly schedule due to time constraints. Corp needs the structure now and the wealthier among the group wants to erect it. Yet if in the next week they lose that structure…
Their money was destroyed and often times people keep on playing. There are things in real life that are life threatening that people pay to enjoy and they are forced to sign a death waiver whilst in eve real money has been getting destroyed, scammed, and stolen since plex was a thing. No one sees it like that because they understand it’s part of the game. UFC and other fighting sports see money and destruction exchanging. Hospital bills are a thing. No one complains about it being a criminal act and actually often times pay to watch. Yet sometimes people are coming out of there with loss greater than their expendable income. Concussions, broken and fractured bones, and all sorts of permanent debilitating injuries from their fights. Yet you can bet everyone involved, including the fighters, are earning their cut. Bets happen outside the scope of the arena and cameras from backyard amateurs to regular fans to rich people. Allowing a TOS compliant alternative to what is already happening would be nothing but good for CCP. Only people who stand to lose would be those who depend on the illicit markets as it stands. It being illicit actually hurts the long term success of the game due to when ban hammers have to be dropped and buyer’s remorse kicks in. Some people return but some do not. The ones making the money are the ones that return. Make it legal and within the confines of CCP and it would be nothing but profit for both CCP and players that participate. Hats in TF2 don’t have value. A Keepstar does though and so do those rare modules and limited edition things that exist but aren’t seeded anymore. The hierarchy is already there. CCP just needs to take control of it or suffer the consequences of banning accounts when they break TOS. Farmers will start a new account but not the guy with buyer’s remorse. The underground markets will always exist because there is demand from players for things like that. Better to have one you control that operates within the bounds of your TOS so that those who participate won’t experience buyer’s remorse when they otherwise would get banned for an activity that countless have participated in. I have even given friends digital items for real world goods in the past. He considered a $5 meal worth the value of the digital assets. The game didn’t get hurt from that.
Just make it where they always have to agree to the TOS before being able to log in to play where that by clicking yes they agree to the terms and can’t take any legal action against you. Make sure it’s the first thing they say in larger text than the rest even. Death waivers are literally a thing. For digital assets, that shouldn’t even be an issue considering death wavier.
Honestly, your reply was too long and winding to digest.
Spending RW money on plex to see what it buys being lost or stolen isn’t the same as building an in-game empire that somehow will have RL value at some point. Not everyone buys plex (or skins or whatever) with real money.
Until some formula for converting game assets into RW money comes about it’s hard to say true “value”. But keep in mind there are players with tens of billions, hundreds of billions, even trillions of ISK built up over the 20 year life of the game. They aren’t going to settle for $100 over it.
Now you destroy some of that, sounds like a crime to me.
And the game owner are on the hook for not properly protecting your “investments”.
Closed at OP’s polite request.