Tell that to the shuttle near jita losing billions in PLEX.
The question you should ask is, how much do you gain? How many people sub to fly better, stronger ships to gank with? Kusions is one example. He has like 20 accounts.
Whereas VAC banned people say “OMG I WASNT ACTUALLY HACKING IT WAS MY DAD USING MY COMPUTER OR I WAS HACKING ON ANOTHER GAME AND NOT THIS ONE”.
Here, its more “STUPID GAME DESIGN I SHOULD BE SAFE I KNOW I AM NOT SAFE IN HISEC BUT IT SHOULD BE, THE GUY WHO DIES IN A BILLION ISK SHUTTLE IN JITA IS STUPID BUT IM SUPER DUPE SMART LOSING A HALF A BILLION GILA ON AUTOPILOT MY INTELLECT IS 2000 IM IN MENSA CCP REFUND OR I QUIT”.
Look, if you truly think its an exploit, send a petition to CCP. It is against the rules to multibox alpha accounts, after all.
But if you think its just 6 players using 6 alpha accounts, then its not against the rules. Its 6v1. Of course you will lose. How many people win 6v1 fights?
Also, alphas can fly battlecruisers too, incase you didnt know. Even if you were ganked by 3 tornadoes, i bet you would still be here crying about it. Because, at the end of the day, its not whether you got ganked or not. Its the type of person you are. And you are the type of person to cry about a gank.
While they do not pay for subscription, they won’t get ships for free. They still have to make the ISK themselves.
Also, not everyone is using PLEX to keep them omega, so they do not have to make that extra amount of ISK every month for PLEX. That is a choice you do, not mandatory.
Not like this, I meaned that suiciders have too small payment for suicide this must be rebalanced by increasing spending money for suicide ships, because jump distance is reduced.
Yes ,shuttle dying in Jita is stupid, because he is going to trade much money on fast ship with 1 hp and dont whant just to get from A place to B by hands.
But dying on armed ship - is not normal. Suiciders should be problem of traders or expensive ships, but not EVERYONE who just have fit more than 10kk+(cost of trashers) Yes may be it will be still profit to gank 600kk ship , but not so profit.
Okay, example- you have done big expedition on 200kk in high sec and far from your base-station, would you spend more then 30-60min to jump 20-25 systems or you will give it autopilot , minimize window, and do something else for 2 hours of flying in autopilot?
And I dont believe that there was Omegas in multiwindows. Why? Just because I know that “emulate” EVE client ,make for him other MAC and IP is not a hard problem. And its not CCP problem, because there is no way to track such things(if it done by professional hands) , and if you cant solve this problem, you should solve aftermath of that.
Lazy or may be I have real life and dont want to waste time for technical questions? And so what is the difference between low and high as I can be ganged in both?
I know a little about moderation of forum ( not CCP, but in other games). They already know, that job of community managers, to monitor forum.
The main problem is not my Gila or in my buttheart, this situation means that suiciders can kill everyone they want without looses and Just for Fun too.
If there were be 3 tornadoes and he loosed 200kk at least, it were not be “so bad”(means he payed for attempt) and 99% I wont run to forum .
If they are Omegas-SP farms, it change situation, a little. We are talking about 2 problems : possible “cheat” and suicide “exploit”, if they are Omega it closes only “cheat” question.
“Exploit” goes to times before SP extractors and Alphas, when suiciders must have good profit to pay their acc. So I could calculate the “safe” fit. Now it doesn’t have any sense, even without profit they can kill.
About 6 alphas multi- it’s very hard to proof, yes they will be as alphas, but if all done by right hands, it can be seen as 6 different players.
So if I have to do explorations and anomalies why suiciders have such easy life? The are not unprofitable and can stay endless without worry that someone will kill their gang.
EVE is a good and hard game, but this doesn’t make game better, this is imposing PVP in high sec where player dont want (if I want I will go to low/null or go to corp with war) and not ready ( in PVE set and AFK). What is the point of updated CCP recruit program if newbie will die on his “one love” in high sec?
You are not a new player, so please don’t use them to push your agenda for your own personal gain. New players are not the ones that cry about suicide gankers because there is no gain in killing them so they are hardly ever the target and if they are they don’t lose a bling ship.
You died because you where too lazy to take the few steps you have to take to make yourself completely immune to ganks. This is a video game and it is all part of the game to figure out how to survive and not lose to other players. And sorry, but it is not super difficult to not die in highsec. If you can’t figure it out on your own why not ask for advice instead of crying and demanding reimbursement and game changes that adjusts the game to your level of not caring about how it works?
I disagree, many others will too. The fact that this can happen, in what you mistakenly seem to think is meant to be safe space, is why we play.
Personally I don’t partake of it, it’s not my thing. I factor it into my gameplay, half the fun of being a professional carefulbear is knowing your foe and using that to avoid his attentions. Some of the people I consider to be friends here would be quite happy to take me down, if they had the time; as it is the universe is full of people under the misconception of “hisec is meant to be safe” that they have their hands full.
this is imposing PVP in high sec where player dont want
No, it’s not.
When you log into a PvP game, you accept that PvP may happen. When you hit the undock button you consent to it actually happening.
(if I want I will go to low/null or go to corp with war)
That’s your choice.
and not ready ( in PVE set and AFK).
Why were you afk in a PvP game?
I understand that manually jumping and stuff can get tiresome real quick, but it lessens the chance of dying like you did.
You choose to use autopilot and go afk, the ship loss is on you, not the people that took advantage of your poor choice.
Accept that you made a mistake and learn from it, I’m pretty sure that you’ve made mistakes in WHspace and learnt from them; I know I did
I learnt that a Rupture, especially in the hands of a 2 month old player, is no match for a sleeper spawn, not without remote reps and a few friends.
I accept, no problem, but I disagree with that suicider can have profit without looses.
Look, 1) was problem of PVP by stealing from newbie wrecks and containers, what CCP done? Agressive control by button.
2) problem of mass killing in belts, what done? Great HP up for barges.
Is that a problem depends from which side you are looking on it + degrade with it game or not.
If you are suicider- of course ! Laugh on me! “Cry baby!!” Game is great!
If you are low/null citizen- WTF? I have no problems.
If you are in high sec - yes, I want to fly more safety.
Autopilot 15km was done not for suiciders, just for traders. I give 100% that CCP got no ideas that something of that will be. But it’s in game rules…was, before it got too profitable.
Clear discuss-
what “good” do suicide in game? Nothing, they have no influence on market and on game at all.
Are they are “official” EVE employment? No, there is nothing about them.
Do they reduce online? Yes, a little.
What they give? Gameplay variation? Aha. They making autopilot useless and making only one-side interest gameplay. Like everyday Titan will warp to Jita and use DD, will be it interesting and fan? To Titan,only.
With all that Im taking not about flow them out, but they are too profitable without payment for a chance to kill. If you want to give players chance for kill and loot in high sec, okay, but set a good price for it, so they need to filter targets.
EVE is PvP game, who said that? You? Sorry, CCP present game as a multi-platform game - PvP,PvE, trading, producing and etc, with elements of PvP, but “you can be killed everywhere without reason” even in places where you shouldnt be killed disbalance game to more PvP.
Suicide ganking is an intended game mechanic that CCP deliberately implemented. There is no other reason for the red setting on the safety switch in highsec and most of all this the very reason CONCORD exist in the game to act as a limit of how much time a ganker has and to make sure he loses the ship in the end.
You are just bitter they killed you and looted your ship. That is your own fault, stop blaming the game and other people. Suicide ganking is well balanced and can be easily avoided. But as we can see from your posts you are not interested at all in improving yourself, you want CCP to change the game so you don’t have to learn how to play it. This is extremely selfish.
Red button is a red button- talk is not about it.
Suicide ganking balanced- facts? Or it is empty talk.
Blaiming? It is my opinion , I ve gave facts how I see it, you can agree or disagree , and CCP can do this. You said nothing new, " it’s all OK , your problem" may be problem in me, but where are your facts? Why suiciders should have opportunity to kill everyone in high sec they want without looses ?(10kk are looses?) Why autopilot became a direct mechanic made to gank his user?
For example I dont like changes to VNI, I ve send my opinion, so there will decide CCP, but I will accept any desision.
Why are you so serious?The only reason I see in this talk- you are a suicider and your life is very good , but some bug made a bad discuss for you. You can ignore this if you don’t mind what will be.
You have your opinion and I have my and CCP will decide, or not.
It’s balanced because it’s hilariously easy to avoid.
It’s balanced because it’s a counter to out of corp alts being used to avoid wardecs, more recently that role has expanded because it’s now one of the few ways that a corporation, that either has an alt corp for the structure or no structure at all, can be attacked.
I think that you’ll find that they made that decision over a decade ago.
Because I enjoy to suicide gank people and you want to get rid of this game play simply because you are too lazy to do the minimal work required to protect yourself.
It is pretty straight forward why it is your fault. There are literally thousands of other players that can handle the minimal danger of getting suicide ganked or if they get caught they actually adapt and improve as a player to no longer lose stuff like that.
But you are not trying to improve, you come here with demands, because you think you have to blame someone else for your mistakes in a video game. You are not only a bad loser, you are a joke of a gamer.