High Sec Freight Unviable - Ganking Is Too Easy

The time to think about ‘consequences’ is not after you’ve been ganked, but before you even set off with your freighter. You get ganked directly as a result of you not thinking about the ‘consequences’ of your particular ship, your particular fitting, your particular route, whether you scouted or not, and so on. Being ganked is itself a ‘consequence’….so stop trying to shift the blame.

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Are you 100% sure about it? I tried to escort freighter through lowsec with webbing alt once and it didn’t work (I used Sunesis, webbed it but it got stiil caught by Rapier that landed after we jumped). It didn’t work for this guy either:

Dude I wanted to send me link to latest empty freighter gank because I am lazy. You posted a 2 months old one. What I wrote was assuming that there weren’t any empty freighters ganked earlier.

That being said. This is not common at all - some of us are rich enough to afford it especially when multiple players are involved, but even if catalysts are used it still isn’t cheap content to do.

So when the empty/low value freighter is ganked it will be one of these reasons:

  • it wasn’t empty when it was scanned 2 jumps ahead
  • it dropped cargo during a gank
  • freighter pilot took “public courier bait” which is a package tailored so pilot needs to use 3x expanded cargohold,collaterall is 2b+ and actual value of the cargo is less than 200m
  • the pilot was rude to the gankers and they wanted to teach him a lesson
  • pilot is known loot piňata and gankers wants to extort him and killing even empty freighter is their way to make him pay for permit
  • pilot is neutral alt of their enemies/competition or someone else put a bounty on his head and asked gankers to kill him
  • stream sniping (Safety is known for that specifically)

That being said, from the kills you posted it seems that this new group in Aufay that I never heard of before is killing any freighter that they can regardless of value. They probably have enough ISK and they just want to kill freighters.

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Hint: hecate with implants insta warps

I am not sure if you read it or you stopped reading at the word Sunesis. Sunesis was not the problem, wasn’t even lost. It was freighter that the Sunesis was webbing.

Only think I can think off is using a single web and/or doing it too late. Sunesis is pretty much at fault here, you want double web to apply almost immediately after the freighter initiated warp, which unless you are incredibly luck to be in range won’t happen with a Sunesis. I typically used a Hyena with a sensor booster and two webs for that. And avoid Minmatar region gates which are enormous without a Loki/Rapier…

You can actually be right next to the freighter before it decloaks, but not gonna tell you how

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How do you reconcile your assertion that it is “unviable” with the continued presence and operation of freighters in high sec year after year?

These seem to be explicitly at odds with each other.

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Yeah approach works. Quicker to just spawn in range tho