High Sec issues I have heard, from both new & old

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@Dyver_Phycad

This is a load of rubbish. Freighters can be ganked on the gate under gate guns very easily. There is no bumping necessary at all. The absolutely only reason why gankers bump is because their alts need time to log in and travel. That’s the only reason.

Yes they can be. Of course. However doing so requires more gank ships,because the sentry guns engage immediately.

So bumping out of sentry gun range reduces the number of catalysts required by a couple.

So before you talk a load of ■■■■■■■■, get a clue.

@Dyver_Phycad

That is a load of rubbish, too. You need around 9-12 characters to destroy a cargo expanded freighter if you take bombers, 6-8 if you take Taloses.

Yes, the gank ship used changes the number of characters needed, and it’s easy to pull out individual situations that differ from the norm.

However, her are some recent stats:

Gankers and freighters, a request for discussion. Not a BJ RANT

OP, I think the perception you have is a common one, but the actual rate of freighter loss overall in highsec is low. Since the end of Burn Jita, I started saving off killmails from zkillboard’s redis feed. The dataset is a touch under 50,000 killmails (not all killmails since burn jita, just periods I’ve saved off), but enough to still see the trend: [analysis] That’s freighter ganks (not includng war losses or killright scamming) and for a dataset of almost 18500 highsec killmails, less th…

Average of 27 ships in the gank fleet (range of 12-39), and if the gank fleet is catalysts, the size of the fleet needed, to overcome the huge tank Freighters can achieve, is large.

Best thing is tank a freighter, use a webbing alt and don’t overload the cargo with value.

Nothing rubbish about it.