The game didn’t change much, but your ability to adapt did.
And don’t let the gate campers hit you on your way out.
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This is utter nonsense. Ive done this countless times over the years and with my playstyle, which is mostly solo….ive had the very same positive experience every time. Yes, joining a corp is highly recommended, but to say its worse? No way.
Skill gap? What are you even going on about. Nobody cares about skill gaps. I think returning players already realize that theyll always be behind others players that play longer. If some care about skill gaps that hard then they can purchase items from the store to take care of that. I mean for pete’s sake…a newly born character can be competitive. Nothing is stopping that.
No sir, thats not the problem. The problem is that gallentia just doesnt want to put the needed work into his or her independent life in the game. There are still ways to normally progress through the game by ones self. Ive been doing it alone for many years just fine. Yes it takes longer but thats the solo way.
Please cut out the “this is an MMO” crap. Its perfectly fine to solo any mmo if youre only willing to put the work in. Playing with others is not and has never been a requirement for participating in any mmo.
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^^ This right here.
The problem of an MMO isn’t the solo player.
The problem is an MMO that no longer makes space for solo players.
Your correct. It certainly isnt.
Again, utter nonsense.
Go find the space, its there. Ive been doing this for a long time here, and many other mmo’s and im telling you right now that this whole “ im solo and i cant find my way” is purely a you thing only. As mentioned above, the game hasnt changed drastically enough for you not to survive and progress the way you want solo. You just have to remove the rest of that entitlement from your conscious, pull the straps tighter, and put in the work.
Again, utter nonsense.
Well, I am not you, and you are not me.
We both talk from our own perspective.
I am not saying you are wrong . but you do.
I’m not calling your perspective wrong, but you treat mine as if it is.
It’s understandable you don’t see the issues.
You don’t have a gap, and you do have the experience built up over the years.
That’s where the disconnect is, and that’s why I’m stepping out of this discussion.
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I repeat: It was NEVER easier to make money solo. Nobody can help you if you remain stubborn and just believe what you want to believe, despite any facts.
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I see no issues because there simply isnt any. At this point, this isnt about perspective any longer. Youre literally the only one thats stating that solo play has eroded over time and has no place in this game.
Im sorry, but all that translates to me is “Im lazy, so i want my fruits now….right now, and i dont want to put any time into my efforts.”
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I am not censuring any play style, how you or anyone else plays EvE or any other game is entirely up to you/them. But MMOs are often easier to play with other people, and EvE in particular is a game where being in a corp, in an alliance makes it much easier to play.
Obviously.
Again, obviously.
I even stated that above.
Its called choice. Its what every player in every game wants. Choice.
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Eve is also notorious for telling you to “trust no one”, that allows corporate theft on a massive scale, where scams are legal, etc.
I know, a delicious contradiction, no?
But there is another story to tell:
Why Returning Null‑Sec and PvP Players Have a Very Different Experience.
When players return to EVE after years away, their experience varies enormously depending on where they come back to. For many high‑sec industrialists and miners, the game feels unfamiliar and difficult to re‑enter. But for returning null‑sec players and PvP‑focused pilots, the transition is far smoother — and there are clear reasons for that.
Returning null‑sec players usually step back into an environment that still supports them. They have friends, social networks, and established corp structures waiting for them. Their alliances maintain supply chains, logistics routes, and access to T2/T3 production, which means they don’t have to rebuild everything from scratch. They also tend to have ISK reserves or assets stored in alliance space, giving them a financial buffer that softens the impact of the industry changes introduced in recent years. Because of this built‑in support system, retention among returning null‑sec players is significantly higher.
PvP‑focused returnees face an even simpler path. Their playstyle requires very little industry, few specialized skills, and minimal blueprint investment. They can jump back into the action almost immediately, because PvP content is always available and doesn’t depend on complex production chains or long‑term economic planning. A returning PvP pilot can buy a ship, undock, and be relevant within minutes. As a result, their retention rate remains fairly stable — the game still offers exactly what they came back for.
In contrast, returning high‑sec industrialists and miners encounter a game that has fundamentally changed. The industry rework split blueprints, increased skill requirements, raised job costs, and shifted essential materials into low‑sec and null‑sec. Without a corp network or supply chain behind them, these players suddenly find themselves unable to build what they used to build. That’s why this group struggles the most, while null‑sec and PvP returnees often reintegrate without major issues.
Returning Players & Industry: Why So Many Get Stuck
More and more returning players come back to EVE after years away with the same expectation: that they can simply pick up their old playstyle again. They return with their old skills, their old ships, and their familiar understanding of how industry and high‑sec used to work. But the game they find today is not the same one they left behind. Over the past few years, EVE has become more complex, more expensive, and far heavier in terms of skills, blueprints, and material requirements. As a result, the current industry environment no longer matches what these players were once able to do. and that’s not a personal failure, but a structural consequence of the major industry rework of 2021–2022.
That rework fundamentally changed the foundation of industry. Blueprints that used to be single, complete items were split into components, subcomponents, and advanced parts. Many materials no longer come from high‑sec but from low‑sec and null‑sec, making high‑sec players dependent on supply chains they have no direct access to. Skills were split and expanded, leaving returning players suddenly missing dozens of new requirements. Even simple T1 ships now require extra parts that didn’t exist before. On top of all that, job costs in high‑sec have increased significantly.
The result is that many returning players experience the same pattern: they log in, try to do industry, discover they can’t build anything anymore, realize they’re missing dozens of skills and blueprints, and see that high‑sec no longer provides the materials they need. For many of them, it feels like they’ve been pushed out of a system that used to be accessible. Not because they’re “casual,” but because the game is now designed around null‑sec supply chains and large‑scale production.
High‑sec industry still exists, but only in a very limited form: T1 ammo, T1 drones, T1 modules, and small T1 ships. Anything beyond that T2, capitals, structures, reactions is practically impossible without null‑sec support.
For returning players who used to be able to produce independently, this feels like hitting a brick wall. ( the impossible wall )
In short: industry wasn’t broken by the latest update — it was broken by the rework from a few years ago. Returning players feel this the most, because the game no longer aligns with the way they used to play. And that explains why so many of them leave again after 2–3 months of Omega.
Based on community data ,between 60% and 80% of returning players drop out (and do not come back easy again) within 90 days. in ( 2026 )
For high‑sec miners and industrialists, that percentage rises to around 70–80%, because the 2021–2022 industry rework massively increased the entry barrier for anyone trying to re‑enter the game.
in short> well theirs your answer why high sec is feeling empty but there is more to it :
The Sacrifice of High‑Sec — and Who Ultimately Pays the Price
One of the underlying dynamics in EVE’s development over the past years is the gradual sacrifice of high‑sec in favor of null‑sec. This isn’t a conspiracy or hidden agenda — it’s simply the result of design priorities. Null‑sec alliances generate large amounts of activity, PLEX purchases, multi‑account gameplay, and long‑term engagement. High‑sec, by comparison, is populated mostly by solo players, casual pilots, and returning players who don’t generate the same economic footprint. From CCP’s perspective, the trade‑off is obvious: systems that benefit null‑sec tend to produce more revenue and more sustained activity, even if they make high‑sec less self‑sufficient.
This is exactly what happened with the industry rework. By shifting essential materials into low‑sec and null‑sec, splitting blueprints, raising skill requirements, and increasing job costs, CCP effectively tied the entire industrial ecosystem to null‑sec supply chains. High‑sec lost its ability to operate independently, and industry‑focused players who once thrived there suddenly found themselves unable to produce even basic items without relying on markets controlled by larger blocs. For null‑sec, this was a boost. For high‑sec, it was a slow erosion of autonomy.
CCP accepts this imbalance because the numbers work out in their favor. Null‑sec players stay longer, run more accounts, and engage in more high‑value activities. High‑sec players, especially returning industrialists, are far more likely to quit when they hit the new barriers — but their departure doesn’t create the same financial shock. In other words, the system is stable even if a large portion of high‑sec quietly slips away.
The unfortunate conclusion is that the group most affected by these changes is also the group least visible: high‑sec miners, solo industrialists, and returning players who try to rebuild what they once had. They are the ones who hit the wall first, and they are the ones who leave again after a few months. Null‑sec thrives, CCP’s metrics look healthy, but the cost is paid by the players who used to form the backbone of high‑sec industry.
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Seems cromulent.
and some people still claim this isn’t a PvP game.
:smh:
Please I beg you, stop with the ai.
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Good to know it reads as reasonable.** **I’m mainly trying to describe the experience many returning high‑sec players run into, so if it lands as ‘fair enough’, that’s already a win.
Don’t worry, I’m the one writing it — not the AI.
If the content bothers you, feel free to scroll past.
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At what point do you recall ever being able to produce T2 anything using exclusively highsec materials?
At what point were we able to produce capitals in high sec?
At what point were reactions allowed in high sec?
The only significant change to any of this is that you can now mine some moongoo in highsec. If you want to go back to the good old days, I’m all for it - any moon mining at all is more than highsec should be allowed.
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Please explain to me why ai checkers report your post as 97% ai written?
If you care about the subject enough to post an essay, please write it yourself. No one wants this slop, it doesn’t make you appear more intelligent or well read, nor is it more enjoyable to read.
Grace us with the real you, I give you my run on sentences and errors, please give me the same respect.
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Whats crazy is you even used ai for your reply! You couldn’t even give me two sentences.