The corp ganks which makes them outlaws, can’t really see the problem, I did say don’t set the alliance
Except the corp doesn’t, some members of the corp do. Painting a whole corp as gankers when a handful of their players gank is overkill.
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I don’t think Githany “I swear I’ll gank them myself” Red cares about that. If you’ve ever even been near a ganker in space, in any capacity, you’re guilty by association, and will be exterminated. The scourge must be eliminated from the game. That is the law.
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We don’t allow ganking in high sec as a corp and the group’s I associate with do not take part in high sec piracy. This is an act of trying to steal off other players , yes part of the game but will come with consequences if you or your corp participate.
So really by the act of joining a corp that allows ganking you have picked your side.
Simple solution members who gank leave or non gankers leave, or be on the wanted list like other criminal groups.
I’m struggling to see any problem really but please point this out to me if I missed it
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We put a lot of effort in making sure the scouts and spies and looters have the correct colour assign to them.
Saying that new player corps should only offer PvP from the side of the Good Guys is absolutely ■■■■■■■■. Great way to discourage folks from exploring a game that is intended to pit players against each other. You pretty much just killed all support I had for your efforts, by trying to gatekeep how people can learn and explore the game.
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I’m not saying that at all for one ganking is not PvP , you don’t need your main character to gank.
What the hell are you teaching new players , ok guys today’s lesson is how to be the scum sucking low life of Eve , have a corp with in your alliance that gankers can live in and do there stuff then we can hunt the right people .
To tell you the truth I’m astonished by your attitude, I really liked what silent company was doing but now I’m not so sure , I have a very good friend within silent company who we spend hours with fighting gankers in high sec and that’s why I said at the start just this corp to red not the alliance, thinking this corp must be the up for anything corp if they are ganking in Uedama as well as being hunted down for their actions .
No one from safety or code has ever said oh don’t set us to red please we are just teaching our new players to gank.
Maybe a lesson on jita scamming next or how to run the bonus room but I’m sure people will be ok with it because it’s a new player corp.
Did you really think I would just say ok go ahead if it’s new players learning …
(I was going to delete the above , feeling this is getting out of hand , in reality members of this corp are not in danger but it’s useful to set them to red , just to spot them in any gank area if that’s what the corp does. Now they are red we can be ready if we think they show gank signs and actively look for killrights to hunt them.)
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@Githany_Red Please let me gank them , so many nice targets.
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Slavers Union- numbers around 20 gankers. Leader: R-O-B-O-C-O-P
Region : Sing Laison and Metropolis
Systems: Deltole and Lanngisi
Deltole they mostly gank at gates and Lanngisi has a lvl4 SOE agent so they look for bling mission runners
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… What?
Do you know how few newbro corps there are that are language specific for non-English players? That means a single corp has to fill a lot of roles to offer opportunities to new members to try any kind of play. And ganking is a valid playstyle. Just like anti-ganking is a valid playstyle. Probably 95% of RSAAA have never and will never take part in a gank, but the option to learn is there if a player is interested. That’s the purpose of a newbro corp: connecting players with resources to try any CCP-permitted gameplay.
Painting any corp as a gank corp based on the actions of literally one member is ridiculous.
Even the anti-gankers understand than gank targets are really just bots and not people.
Should be encouraging ganking if that is the stance.
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So what do you want me to do , we need to see possible gankers or scouts in local.
And well done for running a starter corp ,it’s admirable work from anyone. We have a corp that our members can join with a new alpha, this corp is available to us for ganking , although our target audience are ganker supporters to keep inline with our corps stance in law and order in high sec .
Like I said any member is only really in danger if he is taking part, scout or looting with a gank group .
(Edit: after talking to members of our leadership, any new player corp will not be set to red only individual members , unless the numbers and frequency rises ,if said members doing the ganking are found on any corp op or just flying solo they will still be targets.)
I don’t think AGs actually even understand and/or remember why they do what they do. I’m getting the feeling that it’s force of habit at this point. Like a long-term vendetta that spans decades, and no one remembers what set everything off in the beginning, just they they have to live, and the other guys have to die. Even a year ago I was asking them why they do it, and never got a clear answer.
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What ever people say , we are getting good at it , Kusion failed 4 times last night eve time.
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Who are “Them” so many people seem to ask and take advice from them , they or what ever you call them.
Btw have you noticed how quiet Aiko has been of late. I’ve been told something is a foot there 
and yes it was “them” again
Focus efforts on the actual ganker - as you are now doing per your edit, so mission accomplished.
It’s fine to observe a pattern of behavior and identify risks based on actual data, but taking a single occurrence as ‘this whole corp is full of gankers, watch out!’ is the kind of thing that leads to oversaturated negative standing lists and reaction exhaustion. Too many players set to red and the appearance of a red becomes constant. Your ‘ganking corps’ list is only valuable if it actually identifies players who are likely to gank. Blacklist individuals, and if you notice a pattern, then you blacklist the whole corp.
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I disagree, it’s a lot easier and quicker to just flag the Corp then try to filter out specific members.
Besides that, the members who are doing the ganks could be doing it per orders from the Corp.
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Easier and quicker, yes. Meaningful? No. Turning several hundred or thousand PCs red when the individuals represent no greater ganking risk than any other truly random player leads to oversaturation of local with red-flagged pilots and is a great way to cause alarm fatigue in the people you are trying to help. If the purpose of the list is to highlight pilots and corps that present a greater than average risk, marking an entire corp based on a single pilot who is typically accompanied by people in different corps than his own goes counter to that goal.
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This is about High Sec. Having them flagged Red serves as a warning for when you see them in local chat, basically it makes you ready and on-guard. Also I highly doubt there’s several hundred or a thousand characters in the marked Corps. And even if there was, they’re definitely not all online at the same time. Plus why waste time trying to filter out and mark specific characters when there’s no guarantee the other members in that Corp aren’t doing the same thing.
Also ‘Alarm Fatigue’? The way this game is done now, players should view all other neutrals as Red, better to be safe than sorry…
Can confirm. My CEO is forcing me to gank. Really we’re just a humble mining corporation interested in peaceful manufacturing and resource gathering.