This does not require you to play EVE Vanguard.
Iām at war 24/7, yet I can still manage this very easy to do task. The amount we need to do for this event is way less than other events, like Crimson Harvest or Winter Nexus. You end up needing to kill way more than 2400 NPCs to complete those tracks, itās just divided up to where players donāt notice.
No matter how many times you say this, it is incorrect. By your very own words even.
Youāre so full of it! Many events you barely need to kill anything at all!
Why are you defending this garbage? Seriously? Now you have the nerve to call me wrong multiple times when Iām 100% right?! STEP OFF!
I HATE people like you who make up excuse after excuse after excuse to defend bad decisions. What the hell is wrong with you? Go away, troll! Youāre only making me angrier with your ignorance!
Iām not defending it, Iām correcting what you are saying. When you say that you have to play Vanguard to get the rewards, you are incorrect as you CAN earn it completely in game. You CHOOSING not to, has nothing to do with whether you CAN do it. You are the one trolling when you keep using an absolute statement.
Itās not a REASONABLE choice for anyone who wants to ENJOY THE GAME. Enough is enough! YOU ARE WRONG! Iām sick of people who donāt understand anything trying to correct me. Go crawl back under your rock, troll. THERE IS NO FEEASIBLE WAY TO GET 2400 KILLS WHILE AT WAR IN A TWO WEEK EVENT WITHOUT PUTTING TEN TIMES THE TIME INTO THE DAMN GAME!
You ARE NOT in a position to correct ME!
Just freaking STOP. Iāve had enough of people like you! NOTHING will get better as long as brown-nosers like you dismiss othersā problems and defend their bad decisions!
Again, no one is forcing you to play vanguard to get those skins. You are CHOOSING to be gimped by your predicament. You can always drop corp or go to a remote area of space away from the war. You are moving the goal post my claiming that you only meant that in your situation it is impossible, which is in fact dishonest of youā¦but it is in fact possible still to complete the reward track via EVE Online only. You making choices does not take away from the fact that it is possible.
Maybe rebutt the argument and not tell others to commit illegal acts.
I did, you decided to keep calling me a troll.
You are the one telling people like me to commit an illegal act of violence.
sad fact: at least concord got to see the light of the sun while hilmar project will forever stay in the dark, wasting brain power and customer money for his neverending addiction to fail project.
writting in caps dosnāt make you smart or powerfull.
Well damn that entire conversation escalated rather quickly lol
Goshā¦if youāve never roamed about while at war youāve missed half the fun of EVE.
You are a troll, iāve watched you in these forums since iāve played eve, you, Aiko, Gerard Amatin and some others, you offer nothing other than Defense of CCP its almost like youāre bots.
ignore aiko then, she play forum then eve
I recommend everyone take this advice. Ignore aiko completely. Irrelevance at its peak.
So? War has very little effect on that one. Iām not even gonna suggest you go and grind those 2400 kills in low sec or null, itās prefectly possible to do it in high sec while at war. Another non-issue.
But you are wrong there. It is not required of EVE Online players to play Vanguard to get the rewards. And if youāre not imaginative enough to figure out how to do PVE in high sec while at war, that doesnāt make the players who see those possibilities wrong.
EDIT: I am late to the party, but Iām not gonna delete this post. What I said stands.
So let me get this straight: youāre telling people to attempt suicide because youāre mad that you have to put in more effort than people who are willing to try Vanguard in order to get a thing that lets you paint your ship?
You are welcome to that opinion. I personally donāt like the event, but I also donāt like the spread of misinformation. When I see people spreading false information, I feel obligated to correct it. Now, I might have pushed a bit too hard last night, but it still does not excuse the behavior of Ms Torion.
Thatās me!
Currently Vanguard does not affect EVE Online in any meaningful way. Without Vanguard this event wouldnāt even be a thing, and the rewards are more or less cosmetic.
If you want to get into a discussion that reward track items being bound on account is a bad thing, I am there with you, yeah I think being able to sell off copies of event items I donāt want should be a choice and gives people with more money than the ability to rat 2400 NPC kills in 2 weeks the ability to get the rewards, I hate these arbitrary DAU metric boosting systems too, and they ruined every other MMO I played by robbing players of their agency and railroading them to fill a bar of engagement metrics. But thats not really an issue with Vanguard.
CCP is a company who makes video games, EVE is a niche game with a captured audience, if CCP wants to maintain and grow their playerbase numbers, they need to expand their portfolio of gameplay options on offer, and Vanguard is what they chose to do. This doesnāt stop development on EVE Online nor does it compete with EVE Online for your attention, this is an issue of modern EVE events being about filling a bar on a tracker by doing a WOW style kill/gather quest chain over and over and over and over again for an account bound reward, if this event came out without Vanguard involvement it would still be bad, I donāt do most of these āfill the bar bar fillerā events myself, and the skins I would want from the trackers eventually gets added to the christmas/capsuleer day reward buckets as tradeable SKINs anyway.
Easy to see where frustration come from but I think itās worth to remember that without CCP experiments EVE itself would not be what it is today. Those experiments require new hardware and new code maybe a different way to approch bugs I think some projects failed right right but they also tauhgt lesson plus generated gametech ideas and e talent that can end up feeding back into EVE it isnāt like the work is wasted or no one learned anything during develop time. May be Dust was not perfect but it introduced planetary interaction concept & voice comms integrationand across-platform ambitions long before most companies even thought to try them. Innovation comes with trial and error when corporation motto is if you fail try try again. Even If Vanguard clicks even with a modest audience it could strengthen EVEās ecosystem instead of be competition for it. And even if doesnāt the R&D doesnāt merely vanish in the void, a lot of it rolls back into New Eden in one form the another but better knowledge and ready for change on the fly like what happens when they do downtime and fix things in 15mins. Focusing only on EVE sounds good in theory, but in practice tthatcan mean stagnation, boredom and missed oportunity to learn and prevent. Risktaking is part of why this game is still around decades later while so many other MMOs of its era are long gone.