I did not mean that suicide ganking should be removed. I did not intend to suggest that every miner and hauler would have the feature either. I regret mentioning it at all, since it was not the main point of what I suggested. Mentioning suicide ganking is like rattling a hornet nest. MUH GUNK
soon later in the hospital, I was attacked by the suicide gankers right lets put you to bed you got stung by 700 wasps in one sec.
Simple solution NEW CLEN PVE ONLY SERVER
Its wont cost much since everybody will stop playing in few days anyway…
I’m not crying about anything. I made a suggestion in a thread about how to make the game more friendly to players that are not looking to fight. I know very well that there are people that hate the idea of this. Perhaps you don’t even want them in the game. I don’t care. I want the game to survive and do well. What I tried to say is that ships that are now helpless should also have a fighting chance. Other than perhaps shuttles, all ships should have some ways to defend themselves other than: spam d-scan or die to everyone and their grandmother.
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This is what we as a Community of Eve Online need to sort through as the game had been designed to be very different than other games. Dangerous as Space can be with a Capsuleers assets.
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They have warp drives and access to maps and a Community that can share intel even in a PvE Only Gameplay.
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Yet you throw the term entitled at those that have adapted to the fact this game at the end of the day is a war game.
Demand: PvPr’s…
Supply: everyone else.
The supply are legitimate targets during time of war…EvE is constantly in a time of war…
Players need to learn and realize.
I take offense personally, and on behalf of other vets like myself of you calling the community entitled…WE play the game, and accept the RISKS involved…freighters dont need guns…and if they did…then we should add guns and strip miners to Orcas as well without nerfing what they are now. But I vomit at that idea…so take your ideas and shove them.
Learn to EvE, HTFU
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This withheld anger need to be released but not on General and how did it get to becoming so personal?
it is not withheld…
I just dont as they say in the military “deal with stupid very well”
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It’s pretty stupid to go down with the ship too. Which is what is going to happen to all bittervets if nothing changes. You can insist that Eve is a static thing all you want. But this game depends on a large playerbase to be viable. Do you know what everyone playing this game is doing? Or how many of them are doing each thing? I do not. But I am sure many of them are not doing the same thing you are. And few of them are new players.
I try to understand where you came from in EveOnline and without looking up your pilot history I try to take you like everyother Capsuleer as face value. A Pilot who had docked up to unwind on the forum from a busy hunt in New Eden.
In saying this there is a debate and a strong one at that to persuade to have more pve type game play in Eve Online.
Just today we happen to notice a thread even asking for more pve for Capitals and my first throught was Vets are wanting something different and like with us being here right now on the forum (not refferring to myself as a Vet by anylong shot) as I respect those Capsuleers who had stuck through the changes of the years in Eve Online. But we are all currently docked or afk mining / auto piloting / auto ratting and on the forums interacting in some way to express our concerns and or feelings towards.
I don’t know how else to explain my comment I had made to you other than above.
How is war static??? like wtf…
and it doesnt even have to be the topic war…running a nation…keeping a civilization viable…operating a multi-chain Business…
This is what i meant about stupid…think beyond the topic or what you think is a buzz word…the myriad of things that are required for this game to operate …is what makes it complicated…as an mmo…otherwise we would all be playing X4 foundations…while watching Tv in the other room.
I see the traveling from stargate to stargate is very static, NPC stations can not be attacked / defended even in Eve Uprising FW
Triglavian Collective technology is the only way out of static New Eden.
You have been speaking as if nothing in the game could change. And that if it did it would not be for the better. That is a static view. And it is more or less in line with the game for the past 10 or so years. Not much meaningful content has been added or changed.
Tons of new content has been added in the past 10 years. Planetary Interaction, Citadels, Triglavians, EDENCOM, Faction Warfare, and many, many others…
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where i come from in eve online…
I played the first 2 yrs of my experience as a career ganker, an Enforcement agent to manage belt security so the miners and indy guys we supported could some rocks no matter the TZ they played in.
Then came about a year in nullsec, where we had an alt group that rented 2 systems for about 4 bill per month…the alliance made like 300-400 per month in gross revenues at that time per month.
I was gone for about 4 monthd due to RL from the alliance and game…when i came back the alliance was no more…and i stuck with nearly trillion ISK in assets in the Alliance Bank corp i had operated when i had to leave.
The past 9 years I have been playing as Max Deveron primarily, I have built and mined, and continued to gank ppl that got in my way to do industry…i have trade alts, i have hauler alts, I have been a spy, a handler for spies, I have been involved in wardecs, i have initiated war decs, and thru it all …
I have seen mercenary groups disappear, I have seen gank groups disappear, I have seen large scale HS and Null indy corps/groups quit and leave…I have seen newbies come and go…complaining indy is too hard to do…mission running is boring…or just want to mine only to quit and have to kick them from a corp 6 months later cause they never come back to game…
and the most common thing I read on the forums…or reddit
is nerf ganking
turn HS into a PvE only zone
nerf null income some more
Ban the CSM
Ban Multiboxing
Turn the game into something its not cause i dont like its current version.
When does it stop? When can ppl just learn how to play the game with all its nuances…like actually stop and think out of the box? Most of them are adults…why do they act like spoiled children with a silver spoon in their mouth?
CCP said at Fanfest that somethng like 70-80% of the current playerbase are from the last 2-3 years…the veteran playerbase that new how to make this game great is pretty much gone…and no one but the veteran posters on these forums seems to give a damn about that.
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Ah yes, the good old argument that unless we stop PvPing, all the players who don’t like it when we PvP them are going to quit, and then we won’t be able to PvP anymore.
Tune in for episode 2 shortly, in which our main hero tells everyone that they should go and do PvP in null-sec, where the REAL PvPers are.
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Certain types of players will whine and whine and whine until they get their way. Like the 10 million post thread about cloaky camping that was on this forum for over a decade…
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depends on what you mean as meaningful content…most of the time the playerbase is the content…and the game is just a box of tools and toys for us to use.
Was the Trig invasion time not meaningful content? for a year or so I remember it pulling in the Playerbase from all directions. and i think that was more recent than 10 yrs.
Thank you for being open and genuine with your reply.
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True. The players are the content. To me the best expansions are Apocrypha, Incursion and lastly Incarna for its attempt to do something new (except for the monocle price). Triglavian thing seems like more of the same as the things we already had.