Hypernet change?

Instead of the item’s effective price. You now know that it’s not the item’s effective price, but for someone not knowing, this presentation is misleading.

And STILL the cost of the hypernode is not a part of the equation.
You STILL are better buying all the remaining tickets to complete an offer.

Not necessarily because If you overprice your raffle by double, and buy 50% or more of your tickets, (before correcting for the % chance of winning your own item back) then guess what? You would have made more just selling it at a reasonable price and selling all the tickets to other people.

But nobody cares, you can’t rewrite past. The cost of those hypercores is sunken, you can’t choose to get it back. The question is never if you could have done better ; the question is, what can you do now. And the answer is, buy your own tickets to complete the offer is always the best choice.

So yes, you STILL are necessarily better buying the remaining tickets.

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No, the question is what can you do in the future to have a more optimal result. Not continue on a sub optimal path and then constantly earn less to correct it on the fly.

And no, it is not always the best choice to buy all the remaining tickets to your own raffle. There is the possibility of a circumstantial window where it might be.

No, the question is what can you do now. The question of changing your strategy arises when you START the offer, not when it’s almost done.

and yes, it’s always the best choice to buy your tickets in the raffle, assuming it’s required for it to end and it was with benefit on the first place.

That’s like calling the self destruct button a scam because of the broken trust when someone who doesn’t understand that using the self destruct button will destroy their ship uses the feature and loses a ship they don’t want to destroy. The fact that a few people are so hopelessly stupid that they don’t understand the basic facts of how gambling works does not make gambling a scam.

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because it would be named “eject”. That’s what misleading means.

And nothing here is misleading. This is clearly a gambling system which means that the sum of ticket sales will be greater than the market value of the item. Everyone who isn’t an idiot knows this, nobody is having their trust broken.

Only when you take the time to learn about the feature. Otherwise when someone tells you that the item is sold only for the price of the ticket, you believe him - and later don’t understand why you did not receive it. Because the price of the ticket is written, but not the effective price of the item.

FFS, it’s a basic raffle system just like every other raffle system. There is nothing complicated about it and nothing to learn. It’s not a scam just because you can come up with some weird hypothetical situation where a complete idiot somehow manages to create an EVE account and doesn’t understand that buying a raffle ticket does not mean you get the item automatically.

Seriously, do you actually believe that people this profoundly stupid are actually relevant or are you just desperate to find a way to justify calling a feature you don’t like a scam?

You say that because you already learnt that it is.
If you did not know, and someone told you the price on the item is the price of the item, you would believe them.

I know that more than one person asked on the help channel why this happened this way.

This feature is intrinsically made to scam people. The effective price is CHOSEN by the creator, and then not shown to the user.

No personal attack .

The out of game link is the top search result for “hypernet relay”, something that anyone who isn’t an idiot will promptly find if they are unsure about how the mechanic works and make a token effort to research.

The fact that some people can be too stupid to make even this token effort before spending money does not make it a scam.

You’re assuming that the text strings visible on each node are actually the way the tickets are represented in the RNG draw. I’d be surprised if it’s that complicated, more likely a raffle with X tickets simply assigns them numbers from 0 to X-1 and then calls RandomInteger(0,X-1). The text strings displayed in the offer window would be purely decorative.

In any case, all of your speculation is based on a lack of understanding of math. Unless CCP has completely screwed up the RNG code each ticket has an equal chance of winning, however the code behind it works. What you’re doing here is the equivalent of people talking about their “strategy” for picking winning lottery tickets: pure wishful thinking and desire to have control over a RNG event where each number combination is exactly as likely to win as every other combination.

Depends on the lottery. In US state lotteries, for example, you can (usually) pick your numbers or generate them randomly. It doesn’t matter which one you do because all numbers are equally likely, but it does give the buyer an illusion of choice and maybe encourage them to buy more tickets.

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