As if…, a bit of a tired old line, how many alts do you have Sol?
That was not given in good faith, so why would I accept it.
Most of the gameplay in EVE is extremely easy. It’s a game after all. I would be surprised if any of you crybabies ever did something in this game that is even remotely harder than ganking.
Also by “making it harder” you obviously mean “making it more tedious so fewer people do it” which is just beyond stupid when it comes to a game.
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If gankers can scale up so can ag. A single ag if done right can cancel multiple ganker chars, so they can even scale at a lower rate and still keep up. They are also at zero risk except if done right. ag is hardly difficult, it’s just that the people doing it are mostly driven by anger and are mostly not the brightest stars in new eden.
Unsurprisingly you could not come up with anything you do that is harder than ganking.
There are dozens of activities in eve that have much higher ISK/h at much lower risk and with zero asset investment and which are so insanely easy you could train an animal to do it. I don’t see how ganking is first in line here for another nerf.
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Yeah, so what about the only gankers that were left the last few years killing freighters running 20-30+ accounts. Difficult or easy?
Ganking is broken cheap when we had 3 multiboxers on, and had 60+ dps. But when you have 20 or so less ships, it can get expensive or impossible fast, particularly anywhere outside a 0.6 or 0.5. Even more so with the bump change and us not being able to stall to pull concord without much effort.
Antiganking is way easier, just because the only people who want to do it are braindead doesn’t make it harder.
You just want to be able to stop a gank with 1 or 2 players, when the gankers are using 20+. Even then 1 or 2 players can easily stop or make a gank difficult if they have half a brain.
It’s not even like putting in effort is a barrier. Like a dozen of those idiots sit there 10 hours a days every day for years. It’s literally all incompetence.
Thats exactly it. They see us run 30 accounts and see what we’re doing is possible and just assume it is easy.
Give any of them our accounts for a week and they wouldnt even be close to good enough to execute ganks anywhere near our standard. They’d failgank constantly, get their loot all stolen, waste billions of isk on easier ships, lose targets ect ect…
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ROFL the arrogant stupid assumptions you make are just hilarious. To think that, shows the normal level of personal stupidity and ignorance which seems to be normal for gankers like you.
And all these comments like it is easy to do AG and yet no detail, because you don’t have any detail, because you are talking total crap.
The stupid comment further above about using thrashers is the assumption of a ganker who funds multiple accounts with his ganking profits and assuming that others have the same sort of income and number of accounts which they can dedicate to ganking wrecks so kil rights and negative security standing does not matter. Your ignorance is pure bliss mate, every time I read one of your posts I think you are even more stupid than I thought you were.
Oh dear, same bullshite.
He says as the rich genius ganker Chad looks over at the ag soyboys crying face as he looks in his wallet and moths fly out
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They can also fit a Higgs Anchor rig, which makes them harder to bump and lowers their align time.
Talk about a one track pony…
It is extremely easy to get an ag alt up. There is almost zero skill requirements as even a simple alpha can lock down multiple ganker accounts with inexpensive t1 hardware easily. A ganker character costs far more and needs to max out to get to max DPS or you are just wasting ISK.
They are cheaper and can be alpha.
Most activities are extremely easier than ganking and yield far grater rewards at less cost and risk.
Highsec ganking especially freighter ganking is piracy which means it is done for the ISK. If you compare it to regular PvP then stop the “unbalanced” tears as all PvP in EVE is by definition unbalanced and purely situational and player driven.
The ganking ship is an investmet which you lose if the ganke fails or nothing drops. There is simply no other activity in EVE that has a higher risk because of that.
I’m just opposed to nonsensical arguments by trolls who try to satisfy their inner white knight feelings or butthurtness for loosing their stuff to a gank by trying to meta game ganking away. Get over it.
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Yes they can be extremely effective and cancel out multiple gank alts.
There is a lot more to ganking than arriving on grid and pressing F1. Most of the work comes way before and after that. It shows how you only see this from a victims perspective which is probably why you are so mad about ganking in the first place. An ag can just sit on the gate and press F1 when a gank happens. He also has nothing at stake since it isn’t his ship that is under fire. It’s probably one of the easiest things in EVE and completely astonishing how they still are incapable of doing anything. Must be about the people doing it honestly.
True.
When ganking you lose your ship in almost all cases, which means it is a far bigger investment than any other form of PvP in this game. To simply write that investment off because it is certain is the kind of dishonesty you are already known for, but no one with a brain is actually buying that (some ag might).
All freighter ganking is done for ISK to at least sustain the ganking. This may be different with miner ganking, I still managed to do that though.
It is still an investment and it is a lot higher than anything in any other aspect of the game.
I don’t think you have ever demonstrated that you can even remotely judge something like that.
I’m aware of your multiboxing history and how CCP shut down your isboxer cheat mining operation which you still blame on the gankers (since they banned it because someone started to use it for ganking). It’s pretty obvious what you are trying to achieve here.
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After a long hiatus this post is still going? Why, it’s clearly devolved into garbage. ISD?
Lol, you do realize clicking collect ore on 30 ships is different then ganking where youre running all the dps and support yourself
What does that even mean LOL
If I’m by myself and the freighter is going down the jita pipe and the lowest system I can catch him in is a 0.9 unpulled, there isn’t any other ship than Talos I can use.
Yeah, that’s why code AND miniluv is completely dead now lmao
It’s not even a baseless insult. I’ve seen the same 2 dozen players follow me around for years failing nonstop. They’re idiots of the highest order.
One of the literal last times I played we made miniluv fail gank and took the kill lmao, its a joke how much easier it is to antigank. One decent player in a machariel will force a cat fleet to have to go back and get bombers or talos.
I’m sure you didn’t just press f1 in someone elses gank fleet right? Link the characters and your solo ganks
I haven’t even played for over 6 months, I really don’t care about ganking being dead tbh
Yeah and it doesn’t need to be and is significantly cheaper since you aren’t losing ships constantly if you’re not bad.
30-50% is fair, but in reality 5-20% is how it currently is, agers are just currently trash too.
I’m at the pinacle in the game and I dont even play.
How is that bs chest beating, go look at my kb which is translated to my gigantic wallet (The one dracvlad is so jealous of).
Be fair here, I said that at a complete drooling tard who couldn’t be honest if someone had his family at gunpoint.
Well, honestly you’re just as deluded as he is tbh
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This is way I mean when I say the dude dislikes fundamental aspects of EVE Online, like the fact that a bunch of little cheap ships can dunk a big shiney one.
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That’s exactly it, they don’t like the most fundamental parts of the game.
It’s funny, the bump change effectively killed redfrog too, a large amount of the people using their services were doing it to avoid risk. Now there’s no risk and no contracts for the amount of haulers they have anymore lmao
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That’s probably the dumbest thing I’ve seen someone say this year
Kudos
Yeah sure.
They have wasted thousands of hours following me around. I know theyre useless and complete losers in the game and real life too. This is a fact
Link them, I’m not going to go hunting through zkill to find some characters that don’t exist or is a single f1 monkey
I don’t even have to see them to know how full of bs you are. Like most agers who said theyve ganked, what theyve done is sit in someone elses fleet and press f1 when theyre told like a good monkey
My characters cost over 400bil+ all up to skill inject, making ag character is a drop in the ocean. VERY cheap, and childlike easy.
What about the other “adults” in antiganking who do nothing all day but sit there and play eve following a couple of other players around all day for years.
A lot of them don’t even work lmao, just play eve. And play it about as poorly as someone possibly could
Even someone as dim as you can look at zkill and see that NO FREIGHTERS ARE DYING ANYMORE lmao
Like how is that hard to understand 
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ag being completely disorganized doesn’t mean the activity is difficult. They could easily shutdown gankers with just a hand full of alts since one ag can counter multiple gankers easier. Obviously it’s not the brightest placers who take up that profession and the motivation mostly comes from anger and some deep rooted white knight desires. It’s about the people not about the game play.
When I talk about ganking I talk about the whole process which includes, scouting, calculating, situational awareness, positioning, execution, collecting and overall the whole logistics involved in getting the gank material where it needs to be. Ganking in highsec is one of the most complex things you can do in this game.
You are literally wrong about any statement about ganking you present here so I guess you where just an F1 monkey in a gank fleet without any knowledge how the whole thing is setup or you are simply inventing the thing. As for the ag part, I have no trouble believing it was super challenging for you even though it is objectively simple.
And with “we” you mean those other people who told you to press F1 right? Those people used different game mechanics to outmaneuver the lazy ag who couldn’t probably come up with anything even it would be super simple to adapt to those tactics. Also nicely shows how dishonest you where about ganking just being “press f1”
I have no interest in doing anything like that. I like actually interesting gameplay. ag gameplay is not only super easy it’s also extremely boring.
I was talking about a gank fleet capable of killing a Freighter not about a single gank ship. Once again shows your F1 monkey perspective and no awareness about the actual investment and work involved.
Maybe you are just not good at math. The investment in a fleet of ships capable of killing a Freighter is quite substantial and the risk of losing that investment without return is extremely high compared to other forms of ISK making activities.
Apart from some ag (who simply lack judgment because of anger issues) no one has ever taken your stuff serious
We are not talking about the burn events which are setup and financed by nullsec empires. We are talking about sustained ganking which pays for itself and is actually ISK positive, which is what CODE. freighter ganking was all about. I’m sorry if you never managed to make a profit, but given your flawed understanding of all the processes involved necessary to pull that off it is hardly surprising.
We are still not talking about a single cat
Pressing F1 in a suicide gank fleet or in a nullsec blob when the FC tells you makes you hardly a PvP specialist to judge this. Even the most simple miner ganker puts way more effort into their gameplay than you ever have.
The salt was real
Such linear and one dimensional thinking. Ganking is balanced by the amount of stuff people load into their Freighter and not by the game mechanics. Even if CCP changes the game mechanics there will be adaption and the same thing will continue at another potential loot level as the haulers grow more confident and present fatter targets.
And then people like you will be back to cry for more nerfs.
It’s pretty simple. You are either to dense to comprehend how this is self balancing or you simply want it to be so tedious no one will do it anymore.
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ag is super easy and it can be easily rewarding given all the loot (blue and otherwise) and bounties on the gankers.
I don’t think so.
It’s boring and easy and not the kind of company I’m interested in.
I don’t see any reason why you would ever talk about “per person investment” unless you are completely incapable of understanding what we are talking about or you just willfully dishonest while desperately try to come up with something.
It is simply both. Again the one dimensional thinking. Maybe you should not participate in discussions where you can’t even grasp the nature of the topic.
People like you are the reason this game is a boring wasteland and will eventuially die.
I addressed this before, how are you still stuck on the same mistake?
Oh it was
Ganking is balanced by the amount of stuff people load into their Freighter and not by the game mechanics.
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If ganking freighters is so gosh darn easy, how come more people aren’t doing it?
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I disagree with you because your “arguments” are utter nonsense, backed by only your gut feelings and invented stories.
I can’t imagine how butt hurt you must be to try to meta game a game mechanic you have no clue about for all this years.
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