I like that word.
No kiddin’?
I would like to point out that Dracvlad is a ridiculous person who has been claiming to have me blocked for quite some time.
He also is the author of classic conspiracy theories like "Muh Wreck HP!!1 and more recent classics like “loyalanon = Australian Excellence”.
These outlandish ideas not only entertain, but prove conclusively that this disgruntled little european man is truly and wholly unfamiliar with this game and the mechanics he spends hours and hours, days and days, years and years obsessively posting about in a whiney fashion.
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You still don’t know that there is a time limit on the block function. I have had you blocked, but you are not blocked at the moment, not difficult to understand. 
You mean the one where The CEO of the Miniluv ganker corp took over the wreck EHP issue after the player who was pushing for it left the game when AG was ganking wrecks and got it changed with his high level Goon CSM buddies, and that CCP Fozzie mentioned that when applying the DCU EHP adjustment to freighters to compensate.
My opinion that AE is likely to be Loyalanon is an opinion, I could be wrong, he just seems to have the same style.
Ganking is now in a good place with the adjustment to this naff mechanic, get to it and stop whining about people posting on the game forum…
Yeah but they were not doing that. They were trying to interfere with him playing, not keep their own freighters from dying.
It’s not their ships, It’s other random peoples ships. If they had their way, code wouldn’t be blowing up anyone in highsec whatsoever.
Instead of laughing at some idiot who autopilots 50bil through a system code sat in like 20 hours a day, antigankers would desperately try to stop code from ganking him. It’s retarded
Maybe so. But code as a whole isn’t much different in that regard from the rest of eve.
The couple dozen guys who came on comms every week all knew the line and didn’t do any scamming, child killing or anything of the like in real life.
I’m a pretty big deal.
I had the biggest effect on jfs. Before was an endless field of complacent pilots using triple expandeds in and out of jita. Now there is a long line of paranoid pilots checking every system for me even scanning them and most fitting triple bulks on their ships.
Bumping has been adjusted to heavily favour afk idiots, It was a simply retarded change. But w/e ccp wants highsec perfectly safe, and they pretty much have it now.
You mean the one autistic guy was following him around 20 hours a day insta blowing up the loot.
It’s easily 100x more retarded than bumping. Looting is still annoying now, even without people blowing your wrecks up
so dumb
How is 2 guys doing 99% of ganking a good place lmao, because it’s practically dead?
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Was, you are nothing much at the moment.
I am fine with that as people have a way out of bumping with the cyno if they are ready for it, still I disagree with you lot blathering on that you only caught idiots, what you did was rather clever and there is a critical point in terms of timing.
Bumping has been adjusted so as not to make it a continuous safe point, it has a relatively minor impact in terms of cost, but the most important one is that your reaction time in terms of being ready to go got squeezed. Most of the gankers did not like that. It is the weakness of gankers that makes it safe, but I am confident that people will step up to the plate.
At the end there was quite a few doing it and more training characters to do it.
Seriously, you can loot scoop through a DST in most cases, stop whining.
Might be, but you have the same aggressive posting style.
That was pretty much the case anyway, it was three guys in the main. All excessive multi-boxers, I don’t think that was especially healthy personally.
I think this run-on sentence pretty much sums up another issue, Drac. I didn’t bother to mention it in my last post, but here, let’s diagram the sentence to better illustrate the issue:
I hope this helps to clearly outline why no one pays attention to your incoherent, rambling drivel.
It takes some kind of a personality disorder or something to even create such a disjointed sentence, much less to have such an incoherent thought.
I’m truly impressed, once again, Dracvlad. You typed all that up, but in the end it meant nothing because you don’t know how to English. I read over it more than once but in then end was forced to conclude that you simply don’t know how to communicate your thoughts. I put effort into deciphering your nonsense because I like making fun of you, but alas I had to give up.
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Grammer nazi now, before that I have mental issues. If laying out the event that you refer to gets you going so much, don’t post mate.
I’m forever a huge deal
Cmon even you know it has a big effect on cost
We can’t just always be luckily in the right ships to kill something cheaply, we constantly switch ships to either make the gank cheaper or possible in the first place
And since the traffic is bad we needed to be able to que targets up so we can kill stuff at a good pace. Infinite bumping almost never happened, its your retarded meme
There was one autistic guy who did it for 2 years following warakini and loyal around nonstop lmao
So can everyone else. I do all the effort and spend money on ships and then its a free for all between me and the 5 thieves following me nonstop, its not your dreamland of being easy
And if the loots over 250k size, I have to loot with a freighter. Which if just 1 person sits there trying to point me, makes it impossible to take unless I want a more than 50% chance of losing my freighter
No it wasnt healthy, but it got even worse after the bump nerf
It’s not even just code and miniluv that felt it, its destroyed red frog and other hauling corps
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The balance has to be on the prey and the predator, now the balance is such that if you are not set up and ready to go they might get away. I am totally fine with that, and you still have bumping in your arsenal, it is just not the I win button that you had before. You and I will have to just disagree with this.
But above in this thread there is a post by the OP where he stated that he was asked to bump someone for over an hour while Globby made his way home, that was just too much and that is why I am glad that it was imposed.
In this thread I detailed where Racknar failed to blow up someone because he was not logged in with all his characters ready to go. That is it, the issue that you have.
My focus was on the freighter pilot in hisec who has one or perhaps two accounts and the game balance there. You don’t like it, fine, but you can still gank imo.
The impact on cost is that you do not have the freedom to go with the most efficient setup, seriously? So you mention this as an issue, but sometimes you have to go with what you have and having the freedom to just do the most efficient thing so easily was too much.
We agree on traffic being bad, but your over fishing and this naff retarded mechanic was a part of this.
This is an exchange of views, I see the points that you make, I understand them, however I don’t agree with them because of how I see it, and that is fair.
I am impressed with gankers being so good at this even when under competition with others, but then again I was told by one Miniluv ganker on the TIS Discord that all the freighter gankers were using loot scooping scripts, which was sad if true. Yes that is hard and if it is done without the use of tools, then I am impressed by how well gankers do it. That being said a lot of people are not keen to go FY, but there are a number of people that now seem to be up to it now.
That is risk, it is part of the effort you have to put in, do you make the assumption all the time that I have no idea what goes on when I have actually done some ninja loot scooping myself and gone after loot scoopers too, especially recently.
Thank you for the honesty there.
For a time, but if people are continuing with this game then it will start again, because as sure as hell people will start moving expensive loads again and off we go again. You might however have to do it with other players, which is a good thing imo.
But you don’t care about balance of “prey and predator”
You and me both know 99% of the people we catch make enourmous mistakes like flying through uedama when we have a standing fleet there, why shouldnt the balance move to the gankers favour when they stuff up that badly?
Instead you want it to merely move to even or still in the freighter pilots favour.
It isn’t an I win button tho. If a freighter pilot never does anything wrong, we can NEVER kill them
And even when we caught them, between counter bumping, bumper ganking, webbing, bookmarks, celestials and an alt burning for warpouts, they have a very good chance to get away if they are good.
Bumping was never a guaranteed kill. It was only an almost guaranteed kill if the freighter pilot was absolutely horrible and made every mistake possible in the laziest way.
That happened so rare its not even worth mentioning. I had no problem with a 15 min timer which would make that harder, 3 mins is ridiculous
Where is your crying about how broken jump freighters and dsts are? Like seriously, JFs are the most retardedly unbalanced ship in the game BY FAR
The game dying is the cause of this.
JFs id agree. After farming them for months, they finally learned how to use their ships.
You don’t understand the simple fact that you want to balance ships on the dumbest of pilots
If you aren’t completely full of ■■■■ you’ll agree with me when I say if I was piloting all the freighters I ganked, 99% of them would have lived, because id either not go through those systems, would web my freighter and scout each gate, or id click the button that teleports me to safety after looking at my overview and dscan.
Why should the balance be based on how dumb people are, or how lazy they are in learning the mechanics of the space/ship theyre using?
Thats not true. Infact for a long time I was making jokes about how bad they were at looting since they were getting their loot stolen constantly
Like I cant do anything about a bunch of people following me with 1mil frigates and indies, who even if I kill with my dictor 9/10 get even one scoop, pay for their ship 100x over.
Me investing 5bil of talos and some idiot who risks nothing but a 1mil indy has the same chance of looting the small stuff as I do, dont act like thats any sort of balance
Its another part of ganking where its heavily balanced against the gankers
You keep saying that but it doesnt make it true
It doesnt even have anything to do with us, its because of eve dying from skill injectors/rorqs/citadels, theyve dealt a far greater blow to traffic than anything we’ve done in the past few years. It’s never getting back to anything close to what it was, it will always get worse.
Yes idiots will always fly big loads, but the amount of them is getting smaller and smaller, and we don’t want to log in and get no kills for hours. It’s simply not fun, id rather do something else with my time
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I absolutely care and have laid it out time and time again, most people will go waffling off on ISk destroyed as being about some sort of balance. But I am looking at the options of the prey as compared to playing against the predator.
And here is the disconnect between me and you:
Actually no, their mistake used to be to go through a bottle neck pipe system with a Bumper on the in gate. Which was pretty much 24/24 7/7. Now their mistake is to be to go through when a ganker is setup and ready to go and has not recently ganked. There is a difference you know.
I wanted the freighter pilot to have a chance and not be bumped forever. This still give you bumping as a tool but not the complete I win button it was before.
Like not bother moving his freighter through Uedama.
Counter bumping a bumper is a lot more difficult than bumping a freighter. In my experience it was the bumper getting lazy or not paying enough attention to the act of bumping that allowed people to escape.
It required the bumper to screw up horribly.
In the end it had to work with the contraints that they had elsewhere, still 15 minutes is a long time and with a single account doing this you would get 45 minutes of time to get formed. I don’t think in any part of the game we have that level of risk free tackle, detail another PvP situation in this game where a tackle that cannot be blown up can keep the target locked down for such a length of time. It only existed with this no timer bumping.
EDIT: I thought of one and it was removed by CCP, at one point people had structures close to gates and were using them to hold people with the point, as a result CCP made changes.
Hmmmm, the inter play between JF’s and gankers is quite interesting, I know how little time you have to nab one and if they have a cyno up they can jump to it before you can get a point on them. I watched it happen a few times. I have mates who hunted them in Supers, I know how that worked, I used to use a JF into Stain and it was a kick out station, they are not as safe as you make out. The thing is that the undocking and warping to a gate and the alpha hit from a Super is actually their mistake, if they aligned first and were still in the docking ring they could dock. You have exactly the same sort of window as the super pilot here. You do it and I can say to you and Kusion when you get a kill well played, but it has to be hard.
I don’t know why you say that about a DST.
Not at all, I wanted smart players who were trying to get through your blockade a chance of getting through it if they used their brains and not to run out of options once that bumper was on them.
You know that the webber can be neutralised rather easily. Scouting means I just dock up and give up. And teleporting requires a JF and not a freighter.
He said it, and was being quite open about it.
ISK 0.5 bn of Talos? Actually are you basing balance on ISK here.
This element of the ganking action so to speak is obviously a vulnerability, the ability to bump off grid prior to the change in grid size was obviously a massive advantage to this and in reality counter loot scooping only really started taking off when the grids became a lot bigger. Still you have advantages in terms of the timing of your loot scooping though it is tricky to do.
I think the balance here is fine, it is a competition of timing and placement and you have the advantage here.
The balance to me has always been for the freighter pilot to have more chance to get away and that you have to be ready to gank.
Thing go in cycles, there are only so many easy kill whales around. A lot of hisec players could not sustain that type of loss and left, especially those doing contracts.
At the end of the day I know you walked before the bump change because of this, you told me before and I accepted that as I had seen the fall off in your activity, however at times you will get a number of people getting complacent and doing it.
Still it is not looking good for Eve atm.
We have a pretty major difference in opinion based on what we see as important in terms of balance, our perspectives are different. My base level is that the freighter pilot had only the option to dock up and give up. That was not great game play and as such I think once you run around looking at it, it comes back to the freighter player opposing a single player being screwed totally. We are never going to agree., even though I do see your points and understand them.
You can make all the excuses you like, but that is an ENORMOUS mistake, why shouldn’t they be punished for that bad of a stuff up?
Yeah, or wait till we go to sleep, or use a webber + scout, change ships to a dst or jf if we’re there for the next few hours. There is many more options than just feeding us a freighter
Because you don’t bump the bumper… You bump the FREIGHTER into warp, its really easy, doubly so when the bumper is multiboxing 20 dps at the same time
Bumping isnt super easy, it doesn’t take much unless youre a god at bumping like globby or siegfried
Just because we need to screw up when theyve already made a half dozen mistakes doesnt mean its unfair
But its not free. Have you tried to bump a freighter when there is another bumper trying to bump it into warp and hes also using a frigate to get warpouts? its not easy even if youre one of the 3-4 bumpers in the game that are that good
It’s literally 100% safety if they don’t make MULTIPLE mistakes. I have to use several layers of subterfuge to even trick them to make multiple and then theyre still stupid ships that can have 1.1 MILLION ehp tank, which make the pretty much unkillable
But thats you being bad with jfs, not a problem with the ship. You didnt light the cyno on a citadel, even an average jf pilot wont make that mistake these days.
They have to stuff up REALLY bad to die there. It’s the literal one point theyre at their most vulnerable (only if they are triple expanded fit too btw as people only use on super)
If they click align and wait for their speed to hit warp speed then click warp, they have like 4 seconds to click dock, and even if they click warp first, all they have to do is press ctrl + space and then dock. All of which is fairly easy to do in the time a nyx needs to jump and lock+ shoot unless youre completely retarded/complacent
Honestly its even worse than a super pilot, they need to make several mistakes for me to even have my chance. Be neutral tank or expanded without slaves, not realise Ive scanned them (aka look at your ship and see the beams shooting at it), not use a webber, not use dscan on your webber and then finally not see the suicide point ships on the gate waiting for them. That is a giant list of things they need to mess up.
400k ehp tank ship that can use cloak trick lmao, its retarded. Me and globby were the only ones who ever killed them used properly. Even just using cloak trick will save you from 99% of ganks since nobody tries to uncloak them (which is unreliable and sucks)
Yes if Ive got a suicide point on the other side. But if they scout and jump through when Im not there, its significantly safer
Or use one of the several other options I listed above.
So? Ever thought it was a lie to stir you up? Ive never seen it in the many fleets ive been on with them.
The game is balanced around isk to an extent. If I was killing 10bil+ jfs with 20 1mil isk thrashers it wouldnt be very balanced no? It wouldnt even be statisticly possible even if you were complete trash to not make pure profit
We’re talking about the last 5 years, not like 10. Why even bring that up?
You said looting is easy. I explained how it isnt. Infact it is riskless isk for vultures
If ganking is balanced and we prevailed against it and got a big kill, why should the thieves have risk free access to our loot?
They have complete control of the time, fit and location of their ship and how they fly wherever they go. Even if we had free infinite bumping via a bot, and the bot killed the freighters too. They’d still need to be the ones to put it at a location we can catch it and make the mistake of coming through when there is a bumper/suicide point on the other side.
I just don’t think any of that is relevant at this point. Eve has been in freefall for a while. The player number would collapse if we removed all the bots and multiboxers
There is plenty they can do as I said above. Take the risk with a set of alts, use a side system (lowsec), logout try laters, dst, jf, contract it out to someone else that knows how to do these things and move the risk to them, pay us off?, wait till we gank and move through when we arent watching.
Like especially the last few years after loyal got banned the first time, Uedama/Niarja were empty for hours if not over 12 hours at a time, logging out is a real solution. What do you think someone should do with a titan/super if the system they want to go to is camped? just walk right in? No, they logout. It’s just a part of the game if you don’t want to feed ships to people who are several times more prepared than you and know the game better than you.
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I will go through your post later as I am a bit busy atm, however this one stood out to me.
I was a bad JF pilot because I could not put up and defend a Citadel in the only system that could be jumped to in Stain from lowsec. Is that what you are getting at? Or that I could not do a deal with trustworthy people to open their structures to me, but if they proved untrustworthy I would become a bad JF pilot.
I struggle with your logic here.
I was actively being hunted when using my JF into Stain and it was so difficult and risky that I had to give up on using it and use WH’s instead at which point I gave up on Stain.
Why do you ask? Need help? I also accept ISK for the first consult.
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That’s what I said.
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An interesting read, there is definitely some sort of mental disorder going on in the minds of people who kill other players purely to cause upset. I’ve been that way, unemployed, depressed, hated everything and everyone, my play style was a reflection of that. I’ve been gone from eve for a long time, and only briefly logging in to see changes before burning out again. I became too depressed in life to even enjoy some PVE or trading, so i’d just log on drunk (usually) and making an arse of myself.
I came back to eve just yesterday, my depression is gone now and in case it helps others who suffer long term depression, I actually fixed it through dietary changes. Turns out all I needed to do was eliminate almost all carbs from my diet and focus mostly on eating animal based foods. So almost full on carnivore aka carnivore/keto diet, and there is many such cases of this curing many illnesses, with mental health issues being one of them.
I intend to go back to what I enjoy in this game which is pirating, but I do this for a purpose and not to just be an arse to other players. So if they are a new player they get offered to pay a small ransom for me not to destroy what they possibly spent a whole month to earn. However older players should know the consequences of leaving highsec and pirating is a perfectly valid play style, but there is a difference between ganking a newb for giggles vs putting a point on them, then opening convo to ask for ransom.
One is roleplay and the other is just bullying, but if people want to roleplay the evil person they should do it in character. And not just “HAHAH OWNED u noob lololol u SUCK, u should STOP playing u are terrible at this game xD” that is just disgusting disrespectful behavior.
I know you posted this some time ago, but I just wanted to say that depression is on the rise and its associated with diet. I had tried the vegan diet because I had a lot of problems like acne, depression, anxiety, dry skin etc etc. I didn’t eat much meat before trying the vegan diet, I’m not bashing vegans but that diet almost killed me and because the vegan diet is promoted as being healthy and good for the planet (it isn’t… ) I didn’t associate my worsening symptoms with eating a mostly plant based diet. So after 10+ years i found some ex vegans on youtube, that lead me to the carnivore diet and keto.
I thought what the hell I have nothing to lose I will try it, within 3 - 4 days my depression was gone, yes I experienced keto flu which was horrible. But it was nothing compared to suicidal depression I’d been experiencing, now 1 + month into this all my symptoms are in remission, I look into the mirror and its almost as if the aging process is going in reverse… I am very happy with the results, I’ve reintroduced some carb based foods such as pieces of fruit, a little rice. But I cannot eat carbs like I use too, they make me ill for a few days if I eat too much of them.
Anyway’s its something for you and others too think about, I hope you get better because I know what depression, anxiety and despair all feel like and its a very serious illness.
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Found the Jordan Peterson fanboy
I’m on a miner brain diet btw. it’s basically a type of fasting.
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Maybe it’s because I’m not British, but I think it sounds less offensive (and funnier!) than telling someone to ■■■■ off.
What’s the one about wreck HP?
Do you have citations for this? If you do I’d like to see them.
Can you elaborate on this? What were they doing besides stopping him from pulling ganks?
If I were to guess, the hostility toward anything CODE. does stems from how you guys are very, very good at pretending to be a group of self-righteous, condescending pricks. If adopting these personas was intended to upset other players, then it appears you’ve become victims of your own success.
You know, I have a theory. It’s probably inaccurate, but I want to know what you think of it.
You may have been throwing the word “autist” around earlier like it was just another insult, but I think that might actually explain why some of these players hate you guys so much. People on the spectrum find it incredibly difficult to not take things at face value, even when they’re on the high-functioning end like me.
So when they see someone from CODE. acting like a bully, they’re almost guaranteed to think you actually are a bully, not someone who is just adopting a persona for roleplaying purposes and might be easy to get along with IRL. Combine this with the very rigid mentality that many on the spectrum have…yeah, I don’t see how they could be anything but antagonistic towards you guys.
I’m high-functioning enough and socialized enough that I can recognize you’re not a group of awful people who can only enjoy yourselves by ruining someone else’s fun, and even then it took me a few months to accept.
My theory is probably wrong; anecdotes aren’t data, and a sample size of one does not a valid study make. But I figure there’s no harm in putting the it out there.
I don’t know what you mean when you call it “perfectly safe”, I’ve been jumped by members of warring corps several times in hisec. I even lost a hauler carrying over 500 million ISK worth of stuff to a gatecamp because I wasn’t careful enough.
Hell, that actually gives me an idea for how hisec could be made more dangerous without giving the attackers or defenders an unfair advantage.
I could understand it just fine, though. Here’s a translation:
In a time when the AG crowd was successfully ganking wrecks, the player who was most invested in pushing the wreck EHP issue left the game. Their cause was taken up by the CEO of Miniluv, who gathered his buddies in Goonswarm and successfully lobbied for wreck EHP to be changed. We know this because CCP Fozzie mentioned it when the change was announced.
Does that clear it up for you?
You know, it sounds like the two of you actually agree on that particular detail but don’t want to stop arguing about it.
You know, I want to say that if the solution to an in-game obstacle is to stop playing the game then something really needs to change. But for the life of me I have no idea how that could be changed.
To my knowledge, CODE. never does that. Their activities revolve around getting people to fit their mining barges and haulers more effectively by ganking the ones who don’t and pretending to be assholes while doing it.
Thanks for the advice, I might try that out.
I actually chuckled when I read this. I think I’m finally getting used to you guys.
I’m actually not a big fan of him but I did see him talk about it on Joe Rogan’s pod cast, at that point it more of a reconfirming to my self that it does work. I could go into great detail why it works and why plants are toxic but I won’t because this isn’t the place for it. But I do have great sympathy for those who are suffering, removing just the depression alone is like getting your life back. Well anyway there are more benefits such as saving money, meat does not take as much energy to cook, and if I eat say 500 grams of ground beef I won’t need to eat anything else for at least 24 hours.
Some simple rules
- eat only when you’re hungry
- eat until you’re satiated and not when you’re full
- 20 grams of carbs max but is not required
- Seed bearing fruit which grows natively when in season
- Eat organ meat, beef liver is very nutritious.
- do your own research
avoid
- starchy veg
- grains
- pasta
- bread
Fat is most important, add fat by cooking in beef dripping or consume fat from dairy, such as double cream and cheese. Salt is important but watch it carefully, when a person first starts keto their body is going to dump lots of water and that will cause them to lose a lot of electrolytes such as salt. This causes weight loss, I didn’t mention that this diet is a no brainier method of curing obesity, you gain muscle mass with minimal effort and you don’t lose the gains.
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Dude, don’t wreck you health by following dietary advice of some random carebear on an internet spaceship forum.
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