Im going to assume youve never read any form of employee regulations regarding conduct in your place of work.
I have no wish to converse with a bully or a bigot and politely request you do not reply to me again. Any reply will be ignored.
Good day.
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I was thinking more along the lines of players being able to recognize when someone else has safeties on red.
They wouldn’t, though? This subforum is dedicated to the piracy and law enforcement areas of the game mechanics, so posters are naturally going to talk about that in regards to how it affects their gameplay. I guess I misunderstood what you meant when I responded to your post.
Huh. Interesting. I wasn’t aware of that.
The content of the conversation matters, not just that conversation is happening in the first place. In this case, after their opponents (predictably) banned Catalyst and Talos hulls not only did the CODE. players log off, they outright refused to communicate with CCP, which made them look petulant and childish.
Teams had forfeited matches in the AT before, and for many reasons, but in every case they told CCP what was happening and let the organizers know they were bowing out. Hell, when Mildly Sober goofed up and couldn’t field a full team, they chose to die hilariously by fielding a fleet of T1 haulers (and one thrasher) as a “bloody sacrifice” to CCP Rise in honor of the upcoming rebalance and renaming of the Gallente hulls.
If the CODE. team had done something like that and sortied in untanked, max-capacity, max-yield haulers and mining ships, then it wouldn’t matter if they lost the match, they would have died hilariously in a way that advanced James’ message.
Sure, there would have been the usual haters screaming that “CODE ARE LOSERS, LOL!1!one!”, but there would also have been many players who saw the action for what it was: adapting objectives in the face of adversity so that a goal can be achieved, even if it isn’t the one they were originally gunning for.
Instead, CODE.'s team behaved immensely disrespectful toward both the other competitors and the organizers who had put so much effort into making the AT work, as well as sticking James with the impossible task of spinning it as a victory.
I’m skeptical of this claim. There’s a lot of bile thrown at the ganker crowd that really seems to go above and beyond what I’d consider a reasonable response to internet spaceship piracy. Blowing up pixels =/= sadism.
Well, I can’t honestly say that I agree or disagree with you here, simply because I don’t understand the mechanics well enough to know if you’re right or wrong.
I react like that because I’m on the spectrum myself, and when people start using the term as an insult it makes me somewhat peevish. You’ve got a point about me not reacting to “retard”, though; I’ve got no idea why that doesn’t upset me as much.
I’ve seen the article, Aiko, but this isn’t 15th-century Venezia, and James 315 isn’t Silvio Barbarigo. He can try and claim victory all he wants, but it just makes him look like a manbaby who keeps bleating "CODE. didn’t lose! Nuh-uh! Nuh-uh!"
Seriously, if you don’t intend to dropping character then you should probably just keep your silence whenever the topic comes up. You’re embarrassing yourself.
Yeah. I wasn’t playing at that point, but when I eventually went looking and found the video I probably would have been smirking at their antics.
I can see how you would think that way, even if I don’t necessarily agree. To each their own! 
A couple days back, Lucas wouldn’t provide evidence to back up his claims despite multiple calls to do so from several posters. Galaxy Pig was disappointed, and has been mocking him for it ever since.
Let me give you an analogy: The term “trap” is often used to refer to an effeminate crossdressing guys in anime, but it’s also used as a transphobic slur since bigots think that someone who is MtF transgender isn’t a “real” woman and is trying to “trick” them.
Some trans individuals don’t have a problem with using the term, while others do, so it’s considered good manners amongst the LGBTQI+ community to not use the word unless you’re referring to an actual trap, like an ambush, or one of the various devices used to catch animals.
Speaking personally, I don’t find the term offensive unless I believe it’s being used as an insult, and I think images like this one are downright hilarious:
I think you’re overreacting. Lukas sounds like he’s just being stubborn, not malicious.
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I’m not a great Code Agent. I haven’t been around that long, sometimes I have trouble with the script. Occasionally I am even startled by some of the things the other agents do.
Forgive me Father, it has been months since my last gank…
All I need to do to renew my faith is come on these forums and see the very low quality of the Code-Detractors. It also works in-game. You gank a few miners and they start spewing vile, hateful language.
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Oh we know Lucas, we realized this a long time ago. We also realized you have an iq under 80
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Ah. I think that is a good idea on paper but in practice, people will just troll others and possible use that mechanic to lure ships into gank traps themselves.
The only way I see it possible it increase the ‘chance to intervene’ by 3rd parties is out of the possibilities of the combat mechanics. But if I were to pretend to explain this in a vacuum, I’d increase the length all combat takes…for sake of argument, lets say by x5. This includes CONCORD response times. So normally you pop a ship in 15 seconds but now it would be 75 seconds. The biggest change with this is that the victim can put out a “MAYDAY” and pop a beacon that others could warp to to help out…the current system is just too fast for this too happen.
…but that’s just daydreaming…
But IMO, time is the issue, not the crime mechanics…
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What? CODE won that alliance tournament twice. Not only did we gank the opposing team’s entire fleet when they were trying to AFK haul it through Uedama, but then they tried to ban us from using Catalysts and Talos. In trying to ban us from using those ships, they forfeited the match and we won.
Also, please shorten your posts. They are too long. 
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Okay, that’s a reasonable belief, even though I don’t necessarily agree with it.
From what I’ve seen, gankers tend to receive an absolutely incredible amount of bile for their actions, and that’s something that can be taxing to the psyche. As Xeux says:
There are several ways to deal with this kind of behavior, but the two most common choices appear to be either growing a thicker skin or to stop ganking entirely. From the sound of things, there’s plenty of gankers who refused to stop doing something they enjoyed and just clad themselves in the armor of contempt.
I’d hazard a guess that if ganked players were usually good sports about losing their ships, the gankers would be a whole lot more pleasant in general. The torrents of hate and vitriol they get are enough to make anyone jaded.
BAD ganker! No calling people retarded! No! No!
That’s a fair assessment.
Aiko, you really should know better than to tell lies as easily disproven as this one.
Dropping out of the match and refusal to communicate was taken as a forfeit by CCP, and - presumably due to the execrable sportsmanship exhibited by such an action - earned CODE. a permanent ban from any future Alliance Tournaments.
CODE. lost, and since CCP are the ones who make the rules, so if they start running Alliance Tournaments again there’s just no way any of you are competing unless this ban is reversed.
Now, you could certainly try walking into CCP headquarters and giving orders to people as if you run the place, but I really wouldn’t recommend attempting it. Such behavior is likely to get you escorted out of the building by security, and quite possibly a meeting with the local police.
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Would that include combat with NPC as well? If yes, that is a serious nerf to ratting and mission-running.
Its exactly what he’s doing and he knows it. Hence attempting to continue his intolerance and general off topic attitude towards me by proxy through you.
Unless he is going to apologise, I see no point in reading what he has to say as its purely to troll now. And it doesnt matter what I think of either the topic or his disgusting attitude, he’s decided what I think therefore it must be what I think.
Its good that people have him to tell them how to think. How else would we know who we should all take as a moral example?
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That moment when you realize the person you’ve been picking on actually can’t understand why what they say is so obviously invalid.
Stares down at quivering hands
I need to go pray…
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See, even here, look.
Nothing I said even implies that.
I’m sorry I picked on you for not getting everything, Lucas.
Really this is my fault. I should have figured this out earlier.
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Actually, why there are so many autistic people in this thread?
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Nonsense. Nobody is above the CODE, not even CCP.
Certainly not @TheInternet_TweepsOnline_TheInternet 
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Do facts hurt your feelings? (Yes)
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Okay, I’ve had a good night’s sleep and some food, and I want to address this.
Let me walk you through my thought process here so hopefully you understand why it is that I’m so bothered by your particular choice of words here.
In this comment, you were referring to a certain subset of players that you’ve made quite clear in a long history of forum posting that you view negatively. You equate these people you view negatively to “autistic children”, so my conclusion here is that you view autistic children negatively. I’ve walked through this quite a few times in my head, and I don’t think this is an unreasonable conclusion to reach, despite you clearly not agreeing with it.
When called out on this comment, you try to defend yourself by saying that you didn’t intend it as an insult. Okay, I’d consider accepting that at face value because I have a long personal history of saying things that don’t sound insulting in my head but definitely sound insulting when they come out of my mouth, and I’m sure that I’m not the only person with that problem.
But then you turn right around and double down on the sentiment of the first comment; you equate someone who spends the majority of their time multi-boxing a gank fleet, again a subset of players that you’ve made quite clear that you view negatively, to someone who is “likely on the spectrum”, so my conclusion here is that you view people on the autism spectrum negatively. On top of that, you also state that these people have clear social issues.
At this point, you’ve established pretty clearly that you feel that people you view negatively are likely suffering from autism spectrum disorder (ASD) and have clear social issues.
This may not be what you intended to say, it may not even be what you think you said, but it’s what you said, and it’s apparently what at least some other people here are hearing.
And it’s an insult. Even if you didn’t intend it to be, even if you’re also on the autism spectrum yourself, it’s an insult.
The thing about slurs, insults, etc. is that status isn’t determined by the person using them, that status is determined by the people hearing them. It doesn’t matter if you intended it as an insult or thought you were using it as an insult, people in the community around you have found it insulting. If that weren’t the case, people could say whatever hurtful, insidious, insulting things they wanted and simply shield themselves behind, “But I didn’t mean it as an insult.”
You are someone who quite often (and quite rightfully IMHO) asks people to refrain from personal attacks here on the forums. It’s sad that this is so often necessary here, but that’s the reality we deal with.
I view people using ASD as a way to describe someone in a negative light as a personal attack. Intentionally or not, it propagates a negative stereotype against folks who suffer from ASD.
Do you think you can give me the same respect that you regularly demand of others and refrain from using ASD (or other medical conditions) in this manner? I’m not asking for an apology, I’m simply asking that you give me and the community the same respect to others that you demand of us.
Thanks.
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I retract my apology request and support the above statement 100%
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Like I said, this idea is mentioned while in a vacuum and not looking at anything else. The point is that EVE’s combat fundamentally cannot cope well with a response-time based fix as EVERYTHING (as you point out) is tied together.
If I was redoing combat however, I would do thing way differently, for example:
Have lower weapon sizes not effect larger ship types. For example, weapons classified as small would only effect destroyers and smaller. Reload times and rate of fire would increase for larger weapons so that the only way to attack larger ships is with larger ships…that fire slower which allows for a call-out for aid.
Any how…pointless daydreaming…
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It’s simple.
Stop using “autistic”, “on the spectrum”, etc. to describe people in a context outside of explicitly discussing their mental health. Using those terms in other contexts tends to propagate negative stigmas and stereotypes, which is harmful to those who suffer from the conditions and those that care for them.
Think you can do that?
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You were discussing someone’s behavior in a video game. You used ASD to describe that behavior. I understand that you genuinely think you were trying to provide an accurate description and not insult them, but using it in this manner is still harmful.
As I indicated earlier, I haven’t read this entire thread, and I can’t speak out about what I haven’t seen.
But you’re absolutely right, I see Australian Excellence’s comment is just as unacceptable as yours and I’d ask that he refrain from using such language as well for exactly the same reasons I outlined above.
Do I get concerned by every instance of someone making a personal attack here on the forums? No. If I did, I don’t think I could function.
I only get concerned about the ones that impact me, because that’s all I have the energy to do. The fact that I’m not launching a one-man crusade to stop all insulting or hurtful personal attacks in no way de-legitimizes my concerns.
And that’s the last I’m going to say about this for now. Not only do I have better things to do with my time, the forums are barking at me for replying to you too often…
Thanks again, and I hope you’ll take what I’ve said here into consideration.
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Reported for multiple reasons.
Thanks for reminding me why I left C&P. Time to disappear again I think…
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